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Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by farmerdrew, Apr 28, 2023.

  1. ilovetruckz

    ilovetruckz Light Load Member

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    Can you link me that to an official government site?
     
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  3. BLBurton

    BLBurton Light Load Member

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    Sure Law Document English View


    Duty status time
    2. (1) There are four categories of duty status time for the purpose of this Regulation:

    1. Off-duty time, other than time spent in a sleeper berth.

    2. Off-duty time spent in a sleeper berth.

    3. On-duty time spent driving.

    4. On-duty time, other than time spent driving. O. Reg. 555/06, s. 2 (1).

    (2) A driver is on duty when he or she drives a commercial motor vehicle for an operator or performs any other work for an operator, including time spent,

    (a) inspecting, servicing, repairing, cleaning and warming up a commercial motor vehicle;

    (b) travelling in a commercial motor vehicle as a co-driver, when the time is not spent in the sleeper berth;

    (c) participating in the loading and unloading of a commercial motor vehicle;

    (d) inspecting and checking the load of a commercial motor vehicle;

    (e) waiting for a commercial motor vehicle to be serviced, loaded, unloaded and dispatched;

    (f) waiting for a commercial motor vehicle or its load to be inspected; and

    (g) waiting at an en-route point because of an accident or other unplanned occurrence or situation. O. Reg. 555/06, s. 2 (2).

    (3) A driver is off duty when he or she is not on duty. O. Reg. 555/06, s. 2 (3).

    (4) Despite subsection (2), a driver is off duty when he or she drives a commercial motor vehicle if,

    (a) he or she is driving the vehicle for personal use that has no commercial purpose;

    (b) the vehicle has been unloaded;

    (c) any trailers have been unhitched;

    (d) he or she does not drive the vehicle more than 75 kilometres in a day; and

    (e) an entry is made in the record of duty status or on the record required by subsection 23 (3),

    (i) stating that the driver used the vehicle for personal use, and

    (ii) setting out the odometer readings at the start and the end of the personal use driving. O. Reg. 555/06, s. 2 (4); O. Reg. 715/21, s. 2 (1).

    (5) Despite clause (2) (b), if a driver travels as a passenger to a location where he or she is to start driving a commercial motor vehicle and takes eight consecutive hours of off-duty time at the location before starting to drive, the time spent as a passenger getting to the location is counted as off-duty time. O. Reg. 555/06, s. 2 (5).

    (6) For greater certainty, the category of duty status time referred to in paragraph 4 of subsection (1) includes when a driver is performing yard moves of a commercial motor vehicle within a terminal, depot or port without travelling on a highway. O. Reg. 715/21, s. 2 (2).

    Would you like me to find you a link referring to not being able to PC to a terminal or customer as that is considering positioning the CMV in the benefit of the motor carrier? I think thats in the federal regulations, but I'm not %100 sure, I gotta do some searching.

    Edit: Don't shoot the messenger, I don't necessarily agree that my OOs can't PC to a shop on their weekend without affecting their 36 hour reset, or even a truck wash. Which makes being a OO harder in my opinion. Just letting you know the laws. FYI, you can PC from a shop or truck wash. So if you drop your truck at shop and during reset want to go park it you can, provided you don't park at a terminal.
     
  4. ilovetruckz

    ilovetruckz Light Load Member

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    Interesting, thank you.
     
  5. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    You cant PC from a drop to home bobtail either. Ask me how I know...
    Home to yard, yard to home. I use to drop half hour from my home at a receiver, drop trailer and pc home.
    Nope. On duty. You have to go to your home yard, then pc to the house.
    I shat you not.
     
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  6. BLBurton

    BLBurton Light Load Member

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    You got anything to support this? As I've researched you can PC directly home but NOT back to the terminal. Since you are not positioning yourself for a dispatch and it has no benefit to the motor carrier, it should be legal. Is this a NS thing?
     
  7. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    It's a Canada thing. Dont have it close at hand but I did have the ticket..

    Found this, its FMCSA so applies to US also I guess?

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  8. BLBurton

    BLBurton Light Load Member

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    No flipping way. Thanks; I got some research to do.
     
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  9. BLBurton

    BLBurton Light Load Member

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    Ok upon further research that rule does not apply in Canada. The only exception is that you must have 8 / 10 hours off in between the logging out of the truck / sleeper (sleeper berth provision for 8 off) and starting a new shift. PC time is not be included in your reset.

    So either the officer was being a :mad: or they did not understand where you we're PCing to. Or you didn't have 10 off excluding the PC time (8 with sleeper berth provision).
     
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