CSA 2010: In your opinion, which companies should be shaking in their boots?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JustSonny, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    Time to "make a new plan, Stan"? Just curious!
     
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  3. Yatista

    Yatista Medium Load Member

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    Carriers with a history of vehicle and driver violations have and will continue to be "Red Lighted" on their prepass/easypass because they have earned that reputation. It also presents them with the opportunity to improve that reputation. Each time an actual level 1-3 is done and no violations are found the carrier's and driver's saftey score improves. If you are a professional and do your job properly your score will improve and you will get more "Green Lights"
     
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  4. msh800x

    msh800x Bobtail Member

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    very few, they have stepped up their own enforcement of logs, and started having safety meetings, but too little, too late. they are still bringing in students into their school, and the scary part is, the guy who had that fatal wreck up near buffalo was a trainer himself! i realize that when i do leave there, they will no doubt have a student ready to replace me. he can have the job, at least when i come back through ny with my old company,(which has a better record, NO fatal wrecks within the last 7 years, and only 30 on the safe stat compared to 92 with millis), i wont be bothered as much!
     
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  5. dannyb1212000

    dannyb1212000 Light Load Member

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    #### right. The scores on safe stat are high but not high enough to shut them down what is killing them is the fatality accidents 7 in the last 30 months, 163 injuries, and 360 crashes for Western Express!!! One in 3 of their trucks is going to hurt someon every two years. Safestat can be manipulated by getting drivers to ask for inspections when they know they are legal. The accidents can't hide saftey issues and these can shut them down

    Things like that will get you shut down. I made a post on the bad companies forum about a company (Coretrans) with 100 trucks and 3 fatality accidents in the last 24 months, another 16 injuries, and 26 total recordable accidents. Their safe stat scores are just barely in the 90s right now because they are paying $50 for drivers to get inspections when they are clean and pushing drivers to ask for them at scale houses. They just had a fatality to stop reporting this month where a tired driver smashed into 7 cars killing a child, injuring 11 people, and was way out of service when he did it. Read link:
    http://www.northcarolinainjurylawyerblog.com/2008/09/tractortrailer_driver_is_sued_1.html
     
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  6. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Yes, but what he's saying is that if you may be discrimiinated against because you drive for a bad carrier.

    I.e., You're driving for Angels on Wheels Inc., you have a small logging snafu (you marked 5pm instead of 6pm when you shut down. If the rest of your logs are good the DOT may simply point it out and not cite you or list it on your Level 3 or may not even catch it at all. But, here you drive for Pure Evil Inc., and they see that same mistake and ream you a new one because of it. Shut down for 10hrs and cited on your Level 3.

    You're being punished because of the quality of your carrier now, rather than being judged for you as a driver.

    And I know the simple cop-out "well, don't mess up" isn't the most astute. **** happens.
     
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  7. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    Uhm, sly fox, that's already been going on for years. Doesnt need csa 2010 or safestat or anything. Its kind of like how right now everyones getting kind of the "toyota sucks" attitude and a lot of people probably arent running down to the local toyota dealership to buy a new prius....

    And kind of like how if you're driving in a pack of cars all speeding, and a cop decides to pull one of them over (obviously cant pull all of them over at the same time with just one cop!), a lot of times it's a red sports car.....

    The cops get this reputation formed in their mind and it affects their attitude and their actions. Happens to everyone.

    For werner, its usually "Well we definitely arent giving him a logbook ticket today" without even looking at the book. Some werner drivers are running paper logs. Qualcoms break.

    i used to work for CRST and i failed an inspection because i wrote NB for nebraska instead of NE.

    I work for werner now, and I was driving down US-58 by that inspection slot just west of I-85. Cop does a uturn, puts his lights on, gets in my lane in front of me, sticks his finger out the window pointing to the left, puts his signal on and gets in the left turn lane, pulls into the inpsection area. Parks behind my truck, walks up to me looking at obvious stuff on the truck on his way up, ... "I need your license, medical card, registration...............and your log book." i gave him my license and dot card and told him it'll take a minute to find the registration, and that i have a paperless log and asked if he wanted me to send the message to retrieve my logs. "Nahhhh, if y'alls gots paperless logs, theys watchin y'alls". then he asked if i was loaded, asked where i was coming from, asked what i was hauling, asked for my BOL, the funny part was when he asked where i was going, and i started saying "south b..." and he finished my answer. LOL. knew exactly where the DC was. :p

    found my registration after a minute, and he went back to his car, and after a minute he comes back with a clean inspection report, tells me what to do with it, and "Have a good day and be safe pulling back out onto the road!"

    Anyway you shouldve seen the look on his face when i told him i had paperless logs. It was like, "sheet! We aren't gonna be writing a log ticket here! better get this guy out of here to make room for someone we can give a ticket to!". Nice cop too. Probably was dieselbear...oh yeah there was a dunkin donuts truck he pulled over too at the same time (jk)
     
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  8. msh800x

    msh800x Bobtail Member

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    thats why i left millis, thier safety management was crap, they just had too much of the "just tell the driver make it look legal, and if something happens, just fire the driver for faking logs and leave him hanging" attitude, plus not telling drivers about any changes in pay or being denied/paid bonuses until paychecks came up short., they deserve to get nailed to the wall for all those fatal wrecks theyve had in the last couple of years(lost wheels due to driver not doing pretrip/shop incompetence, watching porn while driving, etc.).
     
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