Should we be able to use cannabis on our time off?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BillyBobFrank, Apr 6, 2023.

Do you believe we should be able to use cannabis on our time off?

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  2. No

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  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    If ATA or come crying mom activist outfit had proposed that trucks all be equipped with drug test/lockout devices that required drivers to prove they were sober before driving the weed supporters and others would have lost their minds. However if the conversation starts with the weed supporters expressing the "why can't I just light up as casually as a beer drinker" then that group supports what they would not have supported. The world is drowning in irresponsible people making excuses for being irresponsible. We don't need more people being more irresponsible and just redefining responsible to mean less than it once did.

    The rules are what they are and even if they changed then someone would complain about those rules. If it's just a harmless plant nobody should worry about, why is it people are willing to ignore the warnings about testing and lose jobs. The leading weed legalization group took 40 years to get it legal in some places. Doesn't that speak to whether weed saps motivation and makes one more creative? Weed smokers want what they want and they make excuses to have it.

    There is no better test for measuring responsibility than telling someone you will be tested and if you used you will be fired or banned from the industry. How would all of us like to have a lengthy complicated discussion with some office flunky to prove we are sober before starting the truck? The combination of people wanting to be irresponsible and other people wanting to be protected from every harm is what is building the future prison state. No moral judgments but govt surveillance of everything. Big Brother doesn't stop monitoring what you do. He monitors what you want plus what I want plus what she wants plus what every other guy wants. Disagreeing with a policy doesn't mean it doesn't apply. And nobody is required to agree before being punished by a policy. It could not be simpler to comply but people are blowing up their job every day. It's called dope for a reason.
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Can you imagine attorneys for the injured just casually deciding to self-limit their stated damages after a crash involving a trucking company that permitted weed users to drive their large commercial trucks? Or would evidence of weed use multiply the awards against trucking companies beyond the current amount? Is that Pink Floyd playing in the background?
     
  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Anyone notice weed users don't seem to notice the difference between legal/illegal and common/uncommon. Do the regs describe what is legal or what is common, asking for an imaginary friend? If it suddenly became common to sleep on the center line of roads would weed users be arguing we should do that, if it was common? "I won't get run over, other people are sleeping on the center line."
     
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  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Someone will ALWAYS impose their rules on others. They either impose their ways on you or you impose your ways on them. Deciding not to impose your rules (I'll leave you alone) does nothing to stop them from imposing their rules on you (eat this, take this shot, report our neighbors, is your car/stove/home/job/etc approved for our future plans?) The best thing that can happen is the group with the least demands on others forces their views on others and then is prepared to defend that situation with necessary force when required.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    If someone knows about the drug screen rules and chooses to break them they obviously have a drug problem or an IQ problem. Neither should be driving large commercial vehicles in public.
     
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  7. MacLean

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    Then why not ban alcohol 100% for off duty / home time as well. They could Hair Follicle Test for it and go back 90 days. This would get all the Drunks off the road because having a drink on your days off makes you an alcoholic.
     
  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    OK. Alcohol is well understood and its effects wear off quickly. The Feds have a test and it has survived multiple court challenges. But if you want to change the rules, I won't resist.

    Weed users KNOW they will be tested. They have endless discussion about how long it is detectable in the user after use. They keep using it. Maybe the weed users should develop different tests for THC and get those tests past the Feds and courts and THEN use it. Instead they use it and whine the tests aren't fair.

    It sure looks are an effective IQ test to me.
     
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  9. RockinChair

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    Oh, you don't know anyone whose child was run over and killed by a driver who was high with a warm roach in the ashtray and the vehicle smelling like burning marijuana?

    Count your blessings.
     
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  10. MacLean

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    There would be nothing worse. WTF has MADD been doing all these years? It’s shocking to see how many people think anyone who’s ever smoked a joint is chronic. While I’m sure many people have been in accidents high, do you think the numbers are equivalent to impaired alcohol driving?
     
  11. RockinChair

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    That's exactly what happened to the son of some friends of mine. He died at 15 years of age because some stoner thought it would be okay to drive while he was too F'ed up to stay on the pavement.

    People who are not sober should not be driving, period. It doesn't matter what they're under the influence of.
     
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