Detroit 60 series hard start in morning

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by rsinghpal, Aug 23, 2023.

  1. rsinghpal

    rsinghpal Bobtail Member

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    Hello all. Having a strange problem with my truck and I was hoping someone here would have a clue based on my particular symptoms. I have a 2005 Freightliner with a 14l EGR Detroit 60 Series. For the last several weeks if I turn the truck off for several hours I will have to crank the engine over by holding the ignition key to the start position for little bit arnd 1 min before she'll start to slowly crank over but then she'll idle and drive just fine. By this time I get a low voltage warning since I'm really drawing on the batteries. I was told by a few different shops that it might be a bad fuel check valve thats allowing diesel to run back down to the tank.
    Have changed FCV also put new injector O rings and cups.
    Tested new fuel pump and same thing.
    Also new check valve on water separator.
    Checked fuel lines for leaks and there seems none.
    Still doing same hard start in morning. The really weird thing is if its fuel related then how come a few spray shots of Starting fluid on the intake have no effect on starting any sooner?
    Anybody has any idea if its related to some electronic.

    Looking forward to suggestions as I cant figure out whats wrong and running out of ideas

    Will appreciate any help..
    Thx
     
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  3. JohnnyC

    JohnnyC Light Load Member

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    You're not clear in your explanation. When you turn the key to the start position does the engine crank ? If not then I would see if you can bypass the starter solenoid to crank the engine. If the engine cranks (spins) and starter fluid does not start it I'm stumped.
     
  4. rsinghpal

    rsinghpal Bobtail Member

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    It cranks for like a minute before it fires up...after that no problem during the day. But after i park it overnight it has same problem
     
  5. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    When you put the key in, in the morning, do you turn the ignition immediately to the ‘start’ position, or do you turn the ignition to ‘on’ and let the computer and all the sensors ‘wake up’ before cranking over the engine?
     
  6. rsinghpal

    rsinghpal Bobtail Member

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    I leave it for minute or so generally but have tried leaving the key on for more than 5 mins too but its always same result
     
  7. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I hope cranking for a minute is a figure of speech. 15 seconds,20 at most. Give the starter a rest. Maybe at least 10 seconds. May be sucking air between the tanks and fuel pump. Check all the line and fuel filter connections.
     
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  8. Transportauto

    Transportauto Light Load Member

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    Engine position sensors,
    Check or replace those and check there pigtails, seen while watching the laptop Engine spinning with no position then after about 30 seconds boom position and she started up stumbling and cleared up after a second or 2.
    But that was a odd case for me. Bubbles in the water separator?
    Try installing a glass fuel line window fitting, this way you can see what the fuel is doing
     
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