Idling fuel consumption at 900rpms 2023 Freightliner

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by John_B, Sep 20, 2023.

  1. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    You come back to this thread when your a O/O and then debate your view point. Because I promise you will have a different view. As far as meeting someone that claims they sleep with the truck off I'am one of them and you won't hardly ever find me sleeping in a TS.. belive it or not there are other plsces to camp
    As far as your argument about painting and the the cost .. obviously you don't know much about class & what it costs to paint something .. 2k might be alittle on the high side but it would cost every bit of 1 200 to 1,400 .. and not every body drives a plastic volvo either so 99.9% of you talking points are given from a company drivers view point where over all cost is illrelevant vs your personal comfort
    Besides you don't know the true cost of owning a truck because you have never had to buy or price them as a company driver..
     
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  3. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Try it once, fill your truck, idle over night or for however long right next to the pumps, and fill it again. You'll be surprised how little it actually burns idling.
     
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  4. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    Done that test. 5 gallons in 8 hours. NTC 350 at 700 rpm idle. Old PT pumps pretty much have no pressure at idle and returns way more fuel to tanks then the injectors need. One reason way the old timers never shut those things down back in the day regardless of having ac units or not.
     
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  5. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    We have MANY OO in our company and they all use the APU also. Most of them drive Internationals though, which surprises me. My last company ditched all their LT's because of cost of ownership.
     
  6. 88 Alpha

    88 Alpha Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    @Long FLD I wasn't going to ask you to post pictures of the company trucks you mentioned, but I'm glad you did. Those trucks look good with the color-matched APU.
     
  7. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    Are those real o/o?
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I agree with you Rubber Duck.
     
  9. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    The idea is the truck is carrying less weight, thus will get better fuel economy. This thinking is huge in the airline industry as there is a significant cost savings to only carrying the fuel needed for the flight.

    In trucking, the practice doesn't really pay off. While weight is a significant factor (we once changed landing gear manufacturers because of a 7 pound difference), the plane isn't going to be making extra stops just for fuel, so neither should the truck. In point of fact, it actually costs more to do partial feelings for both the carrier and the truckstop.

    There are plenty of folks who follow this logic, and when you ask them to run through the math it sounds like "I can shuffle this deck of 52 cards and end up with 54" - no you can't.

    While I agree that apus are generally not worth the cost, I still love mine and prefer it over opti idle.
     
  10. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    I'm pretty sure they aren't pretend ones.

    A few also have older 579's. Not all are in LT's.
     
  11. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Are their trucks unique or do they all look the same and basically look like a fleet truck? If you have a whole bunch of them running identical trucks it’s doubtful that they all went out and purchased the trucks in their own and they are likely doing a lease purchase thru the company.
     
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