How do i dispute my experience not being documented as verifiable?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Fuzzy_Barefoot, Jan 23, 2024.

  1. Fuzzy_Barefoot

    Fuzzy_Barefoot Bobtail Member

    10
    4
    Sep 12, 2023
    0
    I worked for Fabiano brothers for 9 months and they do not have me reported to DAC. I was a driver and they don’t have my info logged. I received a verbal phone call my services were no longer needed.

    No accidents, incidents, no red flags were made by this company. Still can log into their system and show my pay stub and my position as a driver. But how do I dispute it and going forward how do I know if a company reports your experience to DAC? And do they report your experience to DAC only after you leave the company? What good is my experience if they don’t report my experience until I leave if I’m looking for a new company to work for while I’m employed? Either if you have any info or insights let me know
     
    Chinatown and nextgentrucker Thank this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

    10,911
    23,825
    Sep 10, 2010
    Flint, MI
    0
    Dac isn't required, and by far more companies don't use it than do.
    What will happen is the hiring company will call the old employer and get the dats from them.
    If they can't get ahold of them then worry about it. A lot of companies accept stuff like tax returns, logs, bol, etc for proof also. Just depends on the company.
     
    tscottme, 77fib77 and nextgentrucker Thank this.
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,098
    33,193
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    What you said is correct. I think the OP is not giving that employer enough time. Let's assume that the employer is not reporting to Hireright/DAC or for that matter any of the like reporting companies. Further, let's also assume they have a single person acting as HR/Safety, (trust me, happens more than most know) and this person wears several hats and does not reply to the inquiries mandated by 391. 391.23(c)(3) points to part 386.12 to fix the problem. Right now all I can say is good luck finding a perspective carrier to take the time to follow those steps.

    For most people when they read parts 391 and 386 to them it is just gobbledygook. What it means is the prospective carrier that can't get a reply is supposed to call or email the FMCSA's closest service center and complain. The FMCSA will then attempt to contact that employer. What the FMCSA sends back is then placed in the driver's driver qualification file and this will satisfy 391.
     
    ZVar and nextgentrucker Thank this.
  5. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

    2,194
    3,359
    Feb 2, 2015
    0
    tscottme Thanks this.
  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    22,135
    113,440
    Dec 18, 2011
    Michigan
    0
    Moose, it says 'should' not 'must'. Supposed to imply 'must'.

    "Prospective employers should report failures"

    See this is where people get all caught up on the regs.

    If we can not get a reply for confirmation of employment for an applicant, we have to document all attempts, all contact if there is any, and then take the applicant's word.

    The FMCSA doesn't require anything other than clear documentation in the steps to account for past employment.

    We have contacted the FMCSA a few times and they didn't do anything other than say "Document everything" and that was it.
    Actually no, the driver only has to provide the name/address of the company, the length of employment, and the reason for leaving, the rest of the information is not needed unless there is a special circumstance like SAP.
     
  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,098
    33,193
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    The problem with that is there are no real sanctions levied on carriers or their agents who choose to not reply. Thankfully this is not a bad or chronic problem, but it can be a PITA when a carrier shuts down. I have spoken about Arrow Trucking many times on these forums. I have spoken to several of their former drivers who went through heck getting employment information out of them.
     
    Eddiec Thanks this.
  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,098
    33,193
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    The procedures laid out in that rule section is how the FMCSA recommends this is done. I do agree they are not using the words MUST. All I can say is I have seen this work. If the FMCSA is sitting on their butts and not doing anything take it up the chain of command! To be fair I have also seen where documented good faith attempts to make contact has passed an audit. People just need to understand violations of the DQFs found are PER violation. Getting sloppy with these files can cost $$$$$ after an audit as well as lots of overtime getting them fixed after getting a comply date!
     
  9. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

    73,355
    164,926
    Aug 28, 2011
    Henderson, NV & Orient
    0
    You said you can still log in to the system, so take screen shots of all the information, especially the pay stubs.
     
  10. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

    10,179
    62,886
    Jul 7, 2010
    St Louis
    0
    Pay Stubb's? Bank records of deposits?
     
  11. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    4,933
    12,305
    Feb 19, 2012
    CC, TX
    0
    Download a copy of every check stub and every W-2. You can send those to recruiters as proof of employment. I had to do the same thing for some companies I've worked for that are now out of business.
     
    NightWind Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.