This is the summary of my time at Roehl Transport. I hope somebody gets something useful out of this, even if it is of tl;dr size...
Not many company drivers posting to these forums these days who have more than a year with Roehl. I was one of them. (1 of 2? And if so, I can't remember who the other is. Does bucksandducks run company?) I was planning on sticking around a good long time but now I'm gone. Have been for a month now, and I think I've finally mellowed enough now to explain.
The crux of the matter is failure to communicate. To quote a certain quotable president, "The left hand *holds up right hand* doesn't know what the right hand *holds up left hand* is doing."
For example, there were three times I told Roehl I needed to be home on a specific day for a specific reason. You know, to take care of my Life Outside the Truck, which Roehl's literature insists that they work with us on. On those days, I ended up in Owen Sound, Ontario; Green Bay, Wisconsin; and Marshfield, Wisconsin. The time I was in Green Bay was moving day - back when fuel was $5 a gallon and nobody was moving freight I couldn't afford my apartment and moved home. My parents got to do all the work all by themselves. When I got back to work, my Fleet Manager asked how the move went. Well, it went great! I didn't have to lift a finger! I just drove straight to mom's house and my stuff was already there. More recently, I've needed a crown for the past six months, but I wasn't able to get home predictably enough to do this because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
We've just been talking about idle policies and anti-idle equipment. Well, this always seems to be an issue at Roehl. The bunk heaters they use are prone to failure and trying to get them fixed is an ordeal. Mine was broken for two months. This includes three days of idling at Gary waiting for maintenance while I was on a load before finally the dispatcher told me to go. A few weeks later, it still hadn't been fixed and I threatened to quit. At what kind of company do you have to say "fix my equipment or I'm leaving?" The kind of company where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
I did not quit after this, but eventually the dispatcher's supervisor (what do they call them now that they aren't Fleet Managers anymore?) noticed I scored 50% idle and 5mpg for December '08 and called me into the office to ask why, and I told him it was embarrassing to be at a company where it takes two months between the time a problem starts and anybody who can do anything asks about it. I thought talk like that would get me a cab ride home. What I got was a new bunk heater. So I found it was quite an ordeal to get your anti-idle equipment repaired when the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Don't forget about Opti-Stop, every driver's favorite computer program. It doesn't realize that you're idling, so it may well route you to a fuel stop you could only make if you weren't burning 10 gallons a night just to sleep. A phone call to dispatch to say "I can't make this fuel stop because you can't seem to arrange to get my truck fixed" will fix this, but after eight or nine times that process got to be very annoying.
There was an incident where my Fleet Manager, as they were now calling them, told me to come back to work one day and punched the day before that into the computer, and nobody noticed until about 5:30pm as I was about to go to bed for an early start the next day when the run I'd been assigned turned up late. For one thing, nobody noticed that this load wasn't moving until the customer called and asked where it was, a full 9 hours after it was assigned. The phone conversation that resulted included an overnight dispatcher saying I should check in on every off day and me telling him the company was hypocritical to expect me to be at work at an exact time when they won't even tell me what that time is. I know that's not what hypocritical means but that's what I said in the heat of verbal battle and maybe it was on my mind for a reason. After that incident, my Fleet Manager always asked when I planned on coming back out, and I always responded according to what Roehl's hometime chart was. This isn't necessary if the left hand knows what the right hand is doing.
Then I had an accident, where I was backing up and didn't think anyone was behind me and someone was. A really stupid incident altogether, embarrassing and unacceptable from someone who is trying to make this a career. Anywho, on the cover of Roehl's logbooks it says "report all accidents immediately to" and some phone number which I forget. Inside my permit book was a card that said the exact same thing. I called them. Two weeks later my dispatcher calls and asks if I'd had an accident and wants to know why I didn't call them. I said "what part of report all accidents immediately to this number here wasn't clear? I called that number, and that's all it says to do." They accepted this answer but still, the left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand is supposed to do in an accident.
So, on to the highlight. Late last year, I got assigned to a different truck: A Freightliner with no APU, electrical problems, and super singles. When I got it, it had no battery power left and I had to wait for a jumpstart just to run it the first time, and it was basically downhill from there. In the three months I was driving it, I got towed four times and jumpstarted eight times. Every time I went home, I would come back to find the truck either just barely alive or in need of a jump, and if nobody else was there that meant waiting for a service guy to get there. If you have an APU this isn't a problem, because you can just run it and it will recharge the batteries. But I didn't have one in this truck, and about half the company trucks don't. During a PM in Gary I wrote this problem up and they replaced one battery out of a possible four. I still had the same problem afterwards. In fact, during the scheduling fiasco I described earlier, I hurried on over to St. Paul Park to find that my truck wouldn't start after all and got to wait in my car for two hours for a jump so I could pick up a load that I had been startled at home to go get. This can only happen if the left hand didn't know what the right hand is doing, and perhaps this is why the word 'hypocritical' came to mind. Their attempts to save money by not swapping out all the batteries or by buying cheaper tires resulted in extra jumpstarts and tows. It cost $100 to jumpstart a Freightliner from a service truck and right around $425 to pull it out of a hole with a tow truck, according to the Comchecks I had to write for those amounts.
The tows were necessary because that truck had super singles - six tires instead of ten - and kept getting stuck. I ran the whole winter of 08/09 in an International with ten tires when I was fresh out of school and I never got stuck, but in a Freightliner with only six tires and a year's experience it was a different story. I would attempt to drop a trailer at the company lot in St. Paul Park and be unable to move my truck away from that spot. Gee, that only happened twice. I got stuck at Menard's headquarters trying to hook to a trailer, got towed out of that spot, and called it a night and went to the truck stop and got stuck in an iced-over puddle in their parking lot. Fortunately, I don't believe anybody took pictures of this. A bobtail stuck in the middle of the truck stop parking lot with your company name on it would be Swift-level publicity.
The next morning, I called the Fleet Manager and told him something needed to change or else I'd get stuck again. He said he'd do something about it. I was in Eau Claire on my run home, so I went and had hometime and then came back out to work again. I didn't get sent in the direction of headquarters as I probably would've if they had decided to fix this problem. Then on the way home, I was routed right down 90/94/39 from Rockford to Stillwater and could've easily run over to Marshfield and swapped trucks or gotten tire chains or something. I'm sure if a long, complicated process was required then this load could've been relayed off or a different one could've been assigned in the first place. It's not like they're trying to get me home on a specific day. But they did nothing, which must've been what they decided to do about my situation. And I'm not willing to gamble my life on whether I'm going to get stuck again, this time in the middle of nowhere with twenty gallons left and hope I can hold on - if my truck starts, that is.
So, after a year and a half, I took my hometime and instead of resting up for another round, I spent it looking for other jobs, and was accepted to J&R Schugel. The mechanical problems I've had were addressed right away. There is a book of acceptable fuel stops and it's my responsibility to make sure I'm fueled, while I can go right past one if it frequently takes an hour to get through there and there's another good one in the route. I have actually met my dispatcher. Everything I've been told so far has been exactly right. Sure, I have a year and a half's experience to thank for getting me this job, but that's all you can get out of Roehl. I'm not the first person to say this: Get your experience and leave. They will continue to have high turnover so long as the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
What we've got here is failure to communicate
Discussion in 'Roehl' started by spinpsychle, Apr 4, 2010.
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I was interested in JR Schugal. They did tell me I needed at least 6 months experience. Which is kinda unfortunate. Which means i have to run with a crappy company before I can get any decent jobs.
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You have to learn from somebody. And it's not like every day is horrendous; I just unloaded a year and a half's worth of issues in maybe two pages. It's doable. I'd still do it again as opposed to joining Werner, Swift, or Schneider. -
Hey Mr Spin.
First off I am sorry to see you go. It seems as though Roehl is losing its better quality drivers lately. I can understand your feelings. I am a O/O with my own truck and about a month ago they forced me to change DSR's. I was not happy as the one I had did a good job. Ever since it has been a fiasco. So much so that I was supposed to start orientation with anothe company today but my wife and I discussed it and I decided to give Roehl one more chance.
I became a O/O because the way they ran company drivers and treated them was crazy. KIndergardners are treated as though they had more brains. I was always told the O/O's were treated completely differnt. For the first several months this was true and I was happy. Then with the change it was as though I became a company drivers again and downhill spiral began. In fact twice in the past month the fleet manager has had to talk with me because of the comedy of errors and my DSR couldn't help. Let me explain my past two weeks.
I had two load back to back that were refused by the consignee because Roahl did not have a appointment. The second one I sat at all night because Roehl finally made a appointment. No detenetion pay because the customer doesn't pay it and it was Roehls mistake. Then I get a relay from Kaukauna that I am to get and take home. It is only on my way there I get a call saying the relay will not be there for several hours even though it was to be there at midhinght the night before. Now at 1201 am someone knew this yet I got a call at 9am the next morning as I was driving there to get the load. Then after coming out of the house last week it finally became too much. I run a couple load and then get stuck in Ellenwood on Saturday. I get a load I can p/up Monday morning in Atlanta and run 400 miles and drop that afternoon. So now I am sitting nearly 48 hours in Atlanta for free. I get the load monday morning and get to Walmart that afternoon only to be told that the drop# Roehl had was incoorect, after running all the PO's Walmart told me Roehl had never made a apoointment. I went to a local truck stop and sat for the next 14 hours. In the morning I got a message on my Quallcom telling me to go deliver the load. When I got there the gate guard at Walmart told me the appointment was only made a 0730 that morning. Now I ask my DSR what is Roehl going to do to reimburse me my time. I am told nothing. It has become evident that something has defintely changed between the way Roehl now treats it's O/O. SO at this point the fleet manager talks to me because I have told my DSR I am done and heading home. My fleet manager assures me that it is just a fluke because no one else seems to be having these problems. That is how they try to quilt you into thinking that its not them but you that is messing up. I will keep you posted because my time at Roehl is one more fiasco away from me peeling thier name off my truck and leaving. -
I quit a few months ago. I now work as a switcher (yard Jockey). Only 4 months experience.
I know, I am lucky. Home every night.
The fleet manager kept canceling loads by calling me on my cell phone while I was driving also against Roehl policy. I would be driving down the interstate and instantly not know where I was going in the blink of an eye! I was driving while he figured out where I needed to go! Then only 20 miles from the drop I was told to drive 120 miles to give the load to somebody else. This while in EVO 3.
I once was routed 500 miles when I arrived at the guard shack the guard told me, "you have no freight here". My cell phone rang! I was told it was already picked up and I need to find a place to stay. I was told I could not stay there.
I blindly drove down the road....just chose a direction as I was told I needed to leave now! I found a interstate and drove until I found a rest stop.
I had loads canceled on me while driving and forced to talk while driving.....remember SAFETY IS THE CORNERSTONE!
I never had an accident never a ticket. Idle time was great once I even hit 8 mpg rating!
I even had to help do a truck repo! My bunk heater did not work and froze my rear off many times. I once was routed up a 90 degree mountain (not much exaggeration) there were about 30 switch backs and 30 blind turns. My truck was barely pulling the 40 thousand pound load up the mountain in fact I was afraid I might slide backwards, because there was a blizzard and the road was disappearing! I could not pull over I could not back up.
I was routed on a road that I would not take a VW BEETLE on! I was driving a tractor with a 53 foot long trailer! It was insane! In my mind I quit, but to survive I had to keep going forward down this tiny back woods road optistop routed me over. It took more fuel to drive that stupid road than by just going around I-26.
I was told I would have 3 days off after 2 weeks out, but every time it was only for 2 days. I was constantly ripped off on home time!
Almost every time I was called on my cell phone there was always a jerk in the background saying ignorant things which I felt were directed at me.
I saw my wife 4 days a month. They always acted like they were doing me a favor when I supposed to get the time off. I quit once, and they talked me back. After driving with no bunk heater and once again shorted on home time I just resigned...I took a rent- a-car home I put everything in trash bags and just got out without saying anything.
I now have a switcher job that most truckers with years of experience could only get. It was one of those things that a guy had just quit, and I had happened to ask at the right time while looking for work. It was a warehouse job and I just asked, "You would not happen to have a switcher job would you". He said that is funny you ask! Yes we do are you interested? I applied and now I am a switcher. The last guy that had the job was there for 10 years!Last edited: Apr 5, 2010
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Sorry you guys...about your experience with Roehl. I am beginning to thank my lucky stars I did not get hired there.....but Steve is still there training more people....Roehl does not appreciate their drivers. Etch I am glad you bought your truck on your own...at least you can take it with you to another company.
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Gee, seems to me like I work for different Roehl. Going with my second year, always home on time, good equipment with APU, nice DSR, lots of miles, always paid on time. Light freight, lots of drop and hook.
There are few things here and there, but for most part Roehl had been very good to me. -
In the 2 and ahalf years I was with Roehl my average miles were 2700-3000 was never late on del or p/u. Had a very good DSR never had a cross word with any of the folks I delt with. Until I told them about rubbing against a pole. Read about it ? There are people at Roehl who will fire you and it does not matter how well you are liked by them or how much you like them. -
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