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  1. NewTruckerGuy

    NewTruckerGuy Bobtail Member

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    So how do you guys handle states with idling laws? You just sleep roasting?
     
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    one guy put electric blanket around sensor on mirror.
     
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  4. Bud A.

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    What idle laws? Never paid any attention to them, and no one ever pays attention to my idling truck.
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    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Idle laws were enforced for all of 30 seconds after they were passed.

    Opti idle systems are also compliant with all anti idle regulations that I'm aware of, but it's been 12 years since I last read any of them because they're not enforced.
     
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  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Dry van HazMat the driver is seldom if ever to do anything but check the paperwork is correct, makes sure the placards are correct and installed And later removed. If any HM freight leaks, for example, you make a phone call and maybe drive the trailer a few feet from where it is right now. You don't touch the material. I've always had HazMat endorsement. I maybe hauled it 5-8 times in 28 years excluding the 3 years I pulled HazMat tankers full of phosphoric acid. I think 4-5 of my dry van hazmat loads were car batteries. The HM paperwork and placards are what you deal with and you have to have your Emergency Response Guide book and paperwork in specific places in the truck. 99.8% of HazMat freight is anything but explosives and it's almost only explosives and very rare radioactive loads where the routes and procedures are super restrictive. For the other less dangerous HM thr routes may be specified, or not. Many states haze zero HM route restrictions anywhere in the state. The issue with HazMat is if the paperwork is screwed up or you do something really dumb the driver can receive fines in the range of $1-10k just for the HM issue, plus the authorities will treat a box of paint spilled onto the road like a ticking nuclear bomb and send a huge bill to the trucking company or customers.

    If you can afford the extra $200-ish to get the HM endorsement, get it. You don't know if you will need it right now or not. You can let it lapse, following the state procedure later. If you decide you don't want to continue it later you have a procedure that is required to remove it from your license. In my state and several others, I don't know about every state, if you just do nothing and wait your your HM endorsement to expire that causes your whole CDL to downgrade to passenger car driver license. That last sentence may not seem reasonable, but that is exactly what happens in some states. To remove HM from your CDL you have to go to the driver license office in your state, hand over your CDL, and ask for your CDL with no HM endorsement back. You need to do that several weeks, maybe 90 days before your HM endorsement expires. Doing nothing doesn't just cause your HM to expire it causes your CDL to be downgraded. Mine was accidentally downgraded shortly BEFORE the HM expiration date on my license. The law isn't required to be logical, sound right, make sense or be like another state's law.

    No employers is going to turn you down for a job because you have a HazMat endorsement. Some employers won't hire you without the HM endorsement. If you know where you will work and they don't require HM, don't bother getting it. If you don't know where you will work and can afford it, get HM. It may make you eligible for a job you didn't expect. It can take several weeks for everything to be complete. All other endorsements can be completed in one visit to the driver license office.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I just idled if I needed it. My sleep is more important than the air quality in a communist state. I would not work for a company that put a limit on idling unless they gave me an APU.
     
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