Copying identification cards at shippers?

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  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Because insurance companies don't require it unless it is a very high value load or it is a load that has additional coverage because of the uniqueness.
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    That is true for every insurance company and every load? Really?
    What's a trailer full of expensive seafood cost? I've just never had much luck in life telling people, whose job I have never done, and working for bosses I've never worked for, at companies I have no idea what company policies are in place, with insurance I've never bought, what they need and don't need to do their job. Just like you probably know your job better than the grumpy customers know your job. I'm willing to bet someone in the company asking for this info, if not the angry shipping clerk, knows why they need that info. If it really is unnecessary and the info is being used from criminal purposes shouldn't every truck driver being asked for their info also have multiple ID theft events every year? My ID was copied at every refinery, chemical plant, most reefer customers, one particular sporting goods shipper, etc over the course of a few years and spread all over the country and I never had one ID theft event or warning. This seems like just another pointless "but it's the point that matters" crusade for the people that won't protect their info, or only in the way some radio advertiser makes some money, panic. Everyone like to imagine they are the one target for international criminals doing Mission Impossible style things instead of turn off the benefit to getting access to their info. Sort of like the women that watch a lot of Lifetime TV think every man on earth is constantly seeking to kidnap and sell her into some white slavery ring in Guatemala. "Maybe that stranger's raised eyebrow is the signal he's a scout for the human trafficking ring that's been stalking me for the last 45 years?"
     
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  4. Commuter69

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    When 98% of all my recent loads(within the last 6 months or so with my current company) has been PRELOADED AND SEALED before my arrival (if not before I was assigned).... if any loss or damage occurs en route, it's the SHIPPER'S issue for either not counting right, or not securing the freight when I don't have the ability to put my eyes on it..... unless damage is done as the result of a crash.

    The only thing the shipper needs to do is check the box that says 'ID verified'.
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    My CDL just trained me on handling a truck and following the HOS. I should have paid extra to get the CDL that makes me an expert in every other person's job.
     
  6. Commuter69

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    Being able to check the freight itself to make sure it's not just a legal weight, but also secured from shifting or theft(straps/bars/other interior means of preventing damage from internal movement; locking and sealing the doors) is PART OF THE JOB.

    In the event of a sealed trailer, the only thing I can do is make sure that the weight is legal. If I get inspected and DOT wants the trailer opened and it's found unsecure, or overweight crossing the scale, it's my ticket/violation.
     
  7. gentleroger

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    I'm not worried in the slightest about a customer photocopying my license. Why? Because no one who is worth worrying about cares about a folder full of id's. It's not worth the time of inputing all that data into a useful format.

    Now places that scan the ID or otherwise type in the driver's license number? Okay, that has a moderate risk because a 'hacker' can steal 1,000s of id's in a minute. Even then, it's a low risk because if a hacker gets access to a shippers system, there are much more profitable attack vectors.

    In my opinion, a drivers biggest identity theft risk comes from their own carrier. Name, address, social, license number, direct deposit, emergency contact - it's all there in a neat package and how many carriers Ridge's size have robust IT protection?

    Next biggest threats are from medical providers (primary care, dentists, optometrist, med card, drug test), then social media (Facebook, Twitter, TTR, email providers), then cell phone/internet providers/retailers, and finally banks. All of these have a trove of data that can be accessed remotely.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    And part of the shipping clerk's job is getting the information of the random stranger that is driving away with their product.
     
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  9. gentleroger

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    90% of p&g freight is not high value, but every last one of their loads requires the drivers cdl number written on the BOL and has for decades.
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    And I bet after a few months of collecting handwritten CDL numbers the boss of the shipping clerks discovered a photocopy of the CDL is more reliable and readable than the chicken scratches filling up the sign-in log column where CDL numbers are recorded.
     
  11. Ridgeline

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    Yep you two, you are right, there are exceptions but not for general freight.

    I have a driver going into canada as I type this, he is on an escorted load, the value of it is >$20m, I had to send their info to the underwriters who wrote the policy for the shipment, they needed more than just then a driver's license, and it was acceptable.

    Gentle mentioned P&G, it goes for a lot of consumer goods but that's because of the GxP and other practices to ensure the safety of consumers.
     
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