All carriers with in-house CDL schools suck, right? So, which one SUCKS THE LEAST???

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by JustSonny, Apr 10, 2010.

Which of the following SUCKS THE LEAST!!

Poll closed Apr 24, 2010.
  1. C R England

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  2. Knight/Squire

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  3. Millis

    11.8%
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    Prime

    23.5%
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    Roehl

    17.6%
  6. Stevens

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  7. Swift

    11.8%
  8. Driver Solutions (PAM and USA Truck)

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  9. Werner

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  10. Central Refrigerated

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    Willis Shaw (Comcar)

    11.8%
  12. Schneider (if they reopen ASAP)

    17.6%
  13. Watkins Shepard (if they reopen ASAP)

    17.6%
  1. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    I got a call Thursday from one of the community colleges (MGCCC) I have been accepted to attend. They will NOT have a commercial driving class this summer after all, at least not until August and I don't want to wait that long. They have one starting May 5 but I have an obligation to the school district I drive a school bus for until May 20...so the May 5 class is out. I've been accepted at another community college that is a close enough commute but I haven't been in touch with them for several months, they were second choice.
    I'm going to call the 2nd choice Monday to get a definite schedule of upcoming classes. In the meanwhile I need to look even closer at carriers with in-house programs in case 2nd choice falls through.

    I'm looking for information, by way of the poll or by way of your posts. If you have an opinion, whether from experience or from the grapevine, please post and/or participate in the poll I've included with this thread. Thank you for you help! Oldnew....

    P.S. I know that some of the carriers I've listed are "no way, no how, youdumbasshaveyoulostyour mind, but, maybe things have changed???:biggrin_25513:
     
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  3. JimF

    JimF "If you got it, flaunt it"

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    Man, if you don't do it soon, you're going to be 'newoldwasgonnabe' :biggrin_2559:

    Seriously, though, all the listed companies will teach you at least the basics. And no school will get you completely ready for what's out there, no matter how long it is. You just have to get that 1st year of experience out of the way. You can research forever, but you still won't get all the answers.

    Most commercial schools, and some of the cc schools, won't teach you much more than what a company school will teach you. Most will just get you up to speed to get your CDL. The time with a trainer will be of more value.

    Read up on people's experience with that aspect. Do the trainers expect to run team as soon as you get into the truck (CR England used to be notorious for that, not sure about now)? Do they just take you along for the ride just to get the trainer's pay, but don't bother teaching you anything? That's been known to happen, as well.

    As far as safety scores, none of the big mega companies, especially those that take fresh grads, are not going to have great scores. The companies with good scores, and happy, or at least very satisfied drivers, are the ones who only have to advertise in the local paper when and if they do have a opening. They don't spend big bucks for ads in all the free so called magazines. Many don't even have a actual recruiter, just someone in the office who processes aps, when needed.

    But those are the companies that generally a newbie doesn't get on with, due to lack of experience and the fact that they don't do training.

    Not out of choice, but because they will take me on without me having to go through school again, or take a refresher (neither of which I can afford), I'm going with Swift. I'll only have to go with a trainer for the 6 weeks. Funny thing is, it's possible that I will have loads more experience than my trainer. But I'll bite the bullet and keep my yap shut and do my time. I'm also going in with the idea that I might actually like Swift as a employer and stay on with them. If not, I'll give them at least a year, before I apply to one of the 3 companies on my 'best' list.

    For the record, if the only company that would take me on, instead of Swift, were CR England, I'd forget the whole thing and go get a job in a c-store! :biggrin_25513:
     
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  4. JimF

    JimF "If you got it, flaunt it"

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    ps: Can't vote for more than one in the poll.
     
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  5. JustSonny

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    I sure thought I clicked on the multi-choice option. I surely meant too. I'll delete that comment in the thread opener. Thanks for the heads up!:biggrin_25514:
     
  6. JustSonny

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    "Here lies Oldnewbiegonnabe, due diligenced himself to death.":biggrin_25525:

    I'm beginning, more and more, to think that it doesn't matter much to a wannabe which school you go to, as long as the price is comparable....not $6000 for 3 weeks. In the final analysis, a wannabe's success is determined by his/her aptitude, attitude and dedication to learning.

    In my research I've found that a few of the "training companies" have surprisingly good SafeStat and ISS-D scores, notably Roehl, Swift, Watkins Shepard and P.A.M. Roehl and Watkins Shepard are not hiring from my area, P.A.M trucks are automatic trans, so.......

    Good luck with Swift Jim, might just run into (Ooops!:biggrin_2559:) you someday!
     
  7. Blue Screen

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    Oldnewbiegonnabem, Here is my 2 cents. You might try Willis Shaw Express. 3 of my customers drive for them, and claim it's a no bovine scat company. I don't know if this is 100% true, but I found speaking to the company recruiter different. He did not!: promise $100 grand a year w/home time every 2-3 weeks, & a free lot lizard :)biggrin_2559:joking about this one,wife will kill me:biggrin_2559:) After asking about H & Wife teams I was told "If you are looking to make what it's worth for you and your wife to forsake home you should look into H&W team focused company like Con-Way." Not: The both of you need to sign on now and get your 2011 Condo BS! like every one else so far. Good Luck & Good Hunting.
     
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  8. JustSonny

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    Willis Shaw is a possibility until I find out differently. I'm not sure, because I haven't talked to their recruiting office, if they hire out of my area (MS Gulf Coast). I'll probably call them tommorrow or email them today. Thanks for your input!:biggrin_25514:
     
  9. Allow Me.

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    Do not limit yourself to community colleges that are close to your house. Consider moteling it for 2-3 weeks and attending a college in another city.... Think, Son, think !
     
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  10. roadkill4512

    roadkill4512 Medium Load Member

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    Regardless of where you go to school you can be a good driver if you commit yourself to being safe and knowledgeable.

    I'd say anywhere you go they should teach the Smith System and if they don't you can look it up and practice its principles. In addition to implementing the Smith System principles into your daily driving habits I'd advise any newbie to use GOAL - get out and look- anytime you're backing into a dock or into a truck stop parking spot. After a year or so of experience GOAL isn't always necessary as you may reach a certain level of proficiency that it's not needed unless you're unsure of your trailer's position. The Smith System is a set of lifetime discipline's that will keep you out of trouble your whole career if you commit to them.
     
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  11. road dust

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    IMHO, all any school will focus on is how to get your cdl. Anything more will help you become more familiar with trucking but may only confuse you. School may say one thing, a trainer another, but true learning will come when you do it no matter what shool you attend.
     
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