Scania v8 730hp

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by 98989, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    Scania would never make it here unless they came up w/better design for American roads. Lot less real estate in Europe and surrounding area. We have not even started to develop the land in the US. Highways everywhere are wider and can accommodate longer trucks easily except for OD loads that are given their routes. They are a good truck for where they operate. In Iraq the locals were much fonder of MB and Volvos. Did see some Scanias there as well though. The American market dwarfs you guys and if they were able to compete they would.
     
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  3. wire

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    I drive a 2007 long hood 379 Pete with a 600hp Cat C15 and it is definitely the finest truck i have ever driven INCLUDING the V8 Scania i drove in Europe. Fact!
    That said, the Scania is a piece of fantastic engineering. The original V8 Scania was the truck that pioneered the long haul middle east routes from the UK down to Iran, Iraq & Saudi Arabia back in the 1970's when the oil boom started and the political situation was very different to nowadays.
    Some of those routes were a month each way and passed through several different countries including mountain passes through the Alps and Barren deserts in the middle east.
    In fairness, nobody can question the Scania's engineering and durability.
    As far as living accomodation goes the Scania is way behind a Pete. As i said before the sleeper on the biggest Topline is much smaller than any driver in North America would find acceptable but this is purely to conform with the stupid Euro length regulations and not the fault of the manufactures.
    To summarize, I would not swap my 379 Pete for any Euro truck but that is not to say they are not good in their own enviroments.
     
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  4. halfgear

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    you got one of those companies. You can see napoli trans trucks speeding at 130kmh after 11pm at night.
    And they never get stopped, lot's of money involved, in between politicians,supermarkets owners and probably mafia since all this companies are from the south and trucking is a good way to recicle money
     
  5. halfgear

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    well our roads are terrible, most of the higways are 2 lanes and full of turns, not to talk about the mountains, we have the alps in the north and the appennini cutting italy in half from north west to south east. And this people never sleep, they run illegally
     
  6. Art387

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    OK, I get it.
     
  7. Art387

    Art387 Light Load Member

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    Are you sayin, that the only way to have a nice truck with 580hp engine in Italy is to work for mafia ?

    Well, I like The States even more now.
     
  8. Donk

    Donk Have a Cup Of Concrete

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    Ok, your in my territory now..

    you want a road train truck? you wont see many euro plastic fantastic haulin that.... why? cause they dont pull, and arent up to the task for expended lengths of time..

    the ONLY place euro trucks survive is east coast. county of origin for most engines??? USA.

    Euro engines have a multitude of shortcomings that are very hard and COSTLY to deal with.. lack of non factory support for one.. repairs abuse the wallet something fearce.

    Euro trucks DO NOT LAST out here. they are pretty knackered by the 10 year mark, or just over the 1 million klms point.

    My western star with 1.8 million klms and a CAT, was in better condition, ran better, broke less and so on than my NEWER iveco.

    This truck i regret buying. its not overly bad ( for the record it has a cummins in it ), but the fact that only iveco sell anything for it, means ultra pricey parts.. Worse even than KW, and that is saying a lot.



    SCR rigs are still very new, and are not loved. scr tanks arent the issue, its the fact that all the crap jammed into the trucks makes them too heavy on the steer. 6t max here.. my iveco runs 6t bobtail!


    unfortunatley, 550 has been talking to some aussies, not making guesses.

    they do want into the north american market, but they lack a product that is marketable there.... Lets face it, give a euro rig to a us company drone, and it wouldnt last 2 years..
     
  9. 98989

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    Can you say roughly how many is high highest part of road where where trucks drive (percentage of slope length of the climb)

    thanks







    I always love to laugh reading the various arguments
    on various forums, YouTube etc.

    whether is there any one of you aware that these trucks,
    made only for the conditions in which they will work....
    for example in Europe there is a lot of tight places......
    I'm not sure whether the average American tractor without a trailer go where euro truck with semi-tralier can

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5BruyRy9Y&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHoJSIoBw28&feature=player_embedded

    here are the short distances that trucks drive ( 90% of all euro transport is within 500 km -310milles)

    there are lots of hills......

    European transport is still far less paid ( for example my brother drives 220km (136mille) route with lot of hils

    when you drive 25 tonnes of grain
    get an average of $ 350
    Fuel consumption is very high (40L/100km 5.9mpg)-fuel consumption if you're loaded in both directions (88000LBS)

    fuel and toll charges are 200$ in one direction
    often happens that you do not return load


    because of high fuel prices and our trucks have a higher compression ratio....
    and the engines are slightly short lasting
    in most cases the engines are smaller volumes than yours (10-13L )
    Also our trucks have a shorter transmissions (1450-1500rpm at 56mph is very often on croatian trucks)

    I am quite sure that your trucks are better for us than our trucks
    that nobody would have bought ours....and vice versa.....A team of engineers trying to do what is better trucks for specific markets.
    They are not stupid.
     
  10. 98989

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    Italian Frigo is a special thing ( refrigator) ,

    violates all the possible laws that exist......

    Driving fast and without sleep and rest.....


    I know a Slovenian company that drives relation kopar ( slo) Lisbon( portugal) 2700-2800km for 27hours including loading unloading lot of hils ( slovenia-italia-france-spain--porutgal) and paperwork (it takes a lot of time in Europe) with 420/480hp scanias an 40tons

    they also often drive padova-madrid-vigo-zagreb = 5000km driver get 700€ for this circle


    I know a lot of other drivers who drive up to 35 hours.....


    These are also reasons for the frequent crashs


    In Italy there is often the case that drivers in the half year have almost no rest
     
  11. halfgear

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    not were i am from, but in south italy everithing has to do with criminal organizations. they are like a second state in the state.
     
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