Attorneys Answer Q: Guns in Truck

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  1. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    I guess I have led a charmed life.
    The only times in my life when I might have needed to use a gun, was when I was carrying a gun.

    Of course these days we are just back to the wild, wild west of shoot 'em up.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Sp a guy trying to protect himself = a guy trying to be a ######?

    And no, $$ doesn't matter.
     
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  4. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    I don't know, you ask the questions, you answer them.
     
  5. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Dude went well past protecting himself. He ahd already wounded the robber, who was getting away. Robber stole some money from him and somewhat succeeded so I could argue that dude didn't really defend himself. I don't understand why he picked up a random person (assuming he's a stranger) in a bad area in the first place. I could also argue that the best way he could have protected himself was to not pick him up in the first place. It's one thing to shoot someone, but he ran after dude and emptied his gun on him. That was overkill...pardon the pun. That's what I really was critical of.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    How many truck drivers are shot at work every year? 12
    How many truck drivers have heart attacks or strokes each year? 15,442
    How many truck drivers die in wrecks each year? 890
    Did anyone deny you or another truck driver has ever been shot at work? No
    Did I say truck drivers should not be armed? No

    You are about 129 times more likely to have heart attack/stroke (at work/home) as a truck driver than be shot during work.
    You are about 74 times more likely to die in a wreck as a truck driver than be shot during work.
    You are about 17.4 times more likely to have heart attack/stroke as a truck driver than die in a wreck.
    Truck drivers have 11 times the rate of death at work as other employees.

    Is it understandable why a person who got shot at work would worry more about that event than other events.
    I'm sure I would worry more about it than you have if it happened to me.
    You must have done everything right since you survived it.



    notes for calculations:
    3.5 Million truck drivers in US
    133.89 Million employed in US
    Truck drivers are 2.6% of employed
    Truck drivers are 1.03% of US population
    890 fatal violent attacks are work per year (all employees)
    453 victims of workplace shootings (51% of workplace violence)
    Truck drivers are victims of about 12 workplace shootings per year
    23 fatal violent attach on truck drivers per year
    1.5M heart attacks and strokes annually (all US population)
    Truck drivers have 15,400 heart-attacks/strokes per year
    890 truck drivers die in wrecks per year
    Death at work rate (all employees, all cause) 2.6/100,000
    Death at work rate (truck drivers, all cause) 28.8/100,000
     
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  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I almost posted the same thing about picking up strangers, but I think the shooter was a cabbie. So he likely had no choice. I agree completely that chasing after the robber after he's been shot and running away changes the situation dramatically and creates a huge legal problem, especially in the northeast. But I have to wonder what type of person chooses an 8-inch 2-shot pistol for self-defense in a vehicle? Why not bring a sword or rifle or light mortar? They all seem as practical and useful as a hand cannon. Dirty Harry's .44 magnum revolver had a shorter barrel and more ammo in the cylinder.
     
  8. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    You know, I didn't even think about the shooter being a cabbie so that changes my viewpoint somewhat. I still stand on the overkill stance. As to the gun he chose, I'm so ignorant on firearms I couldn't tell you. Given this took place 40 years ago, maybe that was the only weapon he could come across, or maybe the barrel was pretty.....that sounded kind of nasty lol.
     
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  9. Wargames

    Wargames Captain Crusty

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    HA HA HA, THATS a good one. ha ha ha.
     
  10. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    I don’t know, I’ve been out here 5/6 years and I haven’t been in a situation yet where I wished I had a firearm. I know that situation is always lurking though. Wrong place at the wrong time and it can happen. That said I’ve seen how short tempered and angry some truck drivers get. And there seems to be more and more of them. I could see situations where maybe a finger back-and-forth could easily be replaced with gunfire back-and-forth. I can handle someone giving me the finger and just ignore it, but honestly many drivers out there see red instantly. I am pro- 2nd amendment. No doubt.
     
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  11. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    So, if you and your family get hit by a home invader, you get your arse beat, and your lady gets her teeth knocked out, you are cool with that perp leaving after you wake up and chase him out the house with an axe, correct?
     
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