I am a Freight Broker at TQL - looking for conversation and dialogue

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Logistics_Bear, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    You obviously are just making up stuff or you are incredibly ignorant.What you just admitted doing is called back soliciting which TQL when you sign the carrier broker agreement signed saying you would not do.So now TQLhas cause for litigation against your company for a percentage of all revenue generated you get from there customer.Which you referred to as your customer they weren’t your customer TQL payed you so TQL was your customer not the receiver.In case you didn’t know the person who pays you is your customer
     
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  3. NorthEastTrucker

    NorthEastTrucker Heavy Load Member

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    1st off it wasn't TQL. Where did I state that in the post?

    2nd, No I'm not making anything up simply explaining what occurred unless your simple and it's going over your head. It was a completely different broker so don't assume. And yes, the customer ask me a question so I answered him. He wanted to know how much I was paid so I told him. Plus cash in hand is difficult to prove. How is that so difficult to understand? Regardless, even though the customer called me a couple weeks ago I couldn't facilitate their request because they needed a truck on the west coast to haul a Flatbed load and I'm currently working with a Dry van. No solicitation occurred on my end, I never asked to haul anyones load. I got enough work right now so for me I'm good.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Is it still back solicitation if the carrier is approached by the shipper first rather than the reverse?

    Or are freight brokers generally considered sacred cows in this regard?
     
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  5. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    You are really trying hard to avoid what I stated.The problem is when you signed the broker carrier agreement you agreed not to do it.If you are such a great company with such outstanding customer service why are you not able to go and get your own in house customers instead of doing business in an underhanded way as using brokers for sales leads.because it is a unfair business model doing that when you basically have a good idea what the broker is charging and will undercut that.you really can’t say you wouldn’t undercut the rate because you already went back on your word when you signed the contract and didn’t honor that.
     
  6. PPLC

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    Nope. See the definition here.

    https://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/solicit.html

    It happened to me a few times over the years. Had customers go direct with a carrier for one reason or another. Back solicitation clauses are hard enough to enforce- they're harder still when the paper trail shows said customer reaching out to the carrier instead of vice versa.
     
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  7. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    I've seen a couple agreements with added verbiage that covers situations when a carrier is approached.

    Problem with that is it's intentionally knee capping the carrier and preventing him from picking up new work.

    I've never agreed to such a thing and I always ask who exactly the broker's customer is because it's often not the shipper like so many seem to think.

    Those types of brokers are probably banking on the fact that many carriers don't even read what they're signing.
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I can see why that might happen, particularly if a 3PL has a tendency to send morons into shippers to load because they’re the cheapest and they’re tired of their product getting lost or destroyed, so when a decent guy shows up they want him back.
     
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    The times I specifically knew about it, it was either price, or the shipper got to know the guy and liked him, with one time being when a colleague had a service failure while I was at a funeral and the shipper called my regular guy directly rather than listen to excuses from my colleague.
     
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  10. Pepper24

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    Your just trying to hard to attempt to make a point.Yes it’s happened to me a couple times and it was the same thing both times in reality the shipper was just trying to get a cheaper rate.Both times was the same thing,a very small business that was selling used farm equipment basically a 1 man operation with maybe 1 employee there freight was very unpredictable maybe 1 load this week maybe two weeks b4 another yes there paying a much higher rate because there’s no volume of business for a broker or a decent size trucking company so they are going to charge a higher rate .In most all other companies where you pu or deliver you will never meet the person making logistics choices on what company they use to ship with.There hundreds of companies in your area in most cases if you are the gift to the trucking industry and do such a greater job than all the other companies why are you using brokers for sales leads why are you using brokers at all in that case.Even if you believe that a company that you found by using a broker turns around and ask to leave the broker out why would you want to risk hiring a attorney and spend money trying to win that if the broker did find out and take it court. For a customer who really has one interest in finding someone to haul his freight cheaper
     
  11. Pepper24

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    there’s no logic to that at all knee capping in picking up new work .Unless you have o ethics at all what you’re doing is using unfair information meaning when you take a load from a broker you have a pretty decent idea what they are charging so it would be easy on your part to under cut them and using someone who is working trying to sell his company and letting them do the work and you back door ing them by using there work for your sells lead.There’s many more companies that you haven’t hauled a load with the broker with go actually do your own work and sell yourself without using information that someone else had to work for.
     
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