First time. I was bored AF yesterday evening with terrible weather. This guy was leased onto a carrier pulling their trailer, and he mentioned it cost him 20%.
This dude was rolling through his #'s so everyone could see what an OO makes. Great idea.
Anyway, he get's to the part of rate per mile, and it came down to his carrier getting an average of $2.40ish per mile. Roughly 3 bucks out and under 2 back, and this guy ran I guess 2200-2300 miles total. Reefer freight BTW.
So a buck ninety to this guy, then his expenses.
I'm not going to criticize cause I don't know that market at all, I don't know this dude or his carrier, but that sure seems awfully cheap.
Just the #'s sound like his carrier is running spot market freight. Maybe not, but I found better rates myself.
Maybe this is normal for the market, but it seems like it would be tough for a guy to stack any extra at those rates.
What says you guys?
And yes, I know not everyone's expenses are the same.
So, I watched a YouTube Trucker video
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All those seemingly little things can really add up and offset a pretty big chunk of operateing expenses. I cant and wont speak for other OOs but i know being leased to bones has dropped my cost per mile to operate almost a third. And even with bones cut i end up making less money sure, but i KEEP more at the end of the day.broke down plumber, KDHCryo, Concorde and 3 others Thank this. -
I would have expected a carrier with their own freight would be over or very near 4$ a mile.broke down plumber, Concorde and Feedman Thank this. -
And $210K a year assumeing 48 weeks a year worked at 2300 miles a week income with a CPM cost to operate of say $0.6-0.8 aint bad walk away pay.broke down plumber, Constant Learner, Concorde and 2 others Thank this. -
Seems like he has a better than average percentage considering he’s using the carriers trailer. Typically in that situation it’s around 75%, 85% if you’re using your own trailer. Then again it’s really hard to judge not knowing what the carrier included. At 80% I’d expect to be responsible for a lot of fees…carrier has to make something for their troubles.
As far as contract vs spot, contract would sure provide stability. Personally outside of stability I kind of doubt that there’s much of a difference than spot.
The only thing I see in that is problematic with that drivers situation is low miles. Hope he’s not burning up a whole week sitting at food warehouses and losing miles.
Would be interesting to know what he grossed per week/month before carrier takes their cut.Feedman, broke down plumber, KDHCryo and 1 other person Thank this. -
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The carrier I haul for is about the same. Leased O/OP, own my own truck.
A few weeks ago I was stuck trying to pick up a loaded tanker to run over the weekend, and the shipper couldn't make the printer work to print bills. Hazmat load, so I need the BOL that shows Hazmat and X under reportable. Called my company and someone at Extended OPS sent me the RateCon for the load, thinking it would be a BOL, which I wasn't supposed to see.
LOL, no that won't work. But I did get to see what the carrier charged!
I got about 60% of the contract rate. I was a little mad at first, but than ran numbers in my head.
The company I contract for charges me about $250 a week for carriers authority and dot numbers, baseplates, HVUT tax, tractor insurance, load insurance, fuel card with discount (usually .50c off pilot price), IFTA reporting, personal property insurance.
If I got 100% of that ratecon on that load, I'd have a hard time paying for all the insurances and taxes, being a single truck operation.
FWIW, I got paid 2.08/mile for that load, 906 miles length of haul. Winder GA to Midlothian OK. 2 days of work, $1999.68 to the truck. But in all reality it was probably a $3.00/ mi plus load. How does that work out for 1099 tax purposes? It's been good for the last 2 years. I won't post my income here, but it's been good. I'm not broke and I ain't getting rich. And it's steady, always there, loads, which you can plan around.
So, it's a wash, you have to consider all the factors, the big picture.
I generally average $5-600 daily revenue to the truck, but I have to pay for fuel.
Personal wants like Health Ins, 401K, Dental, Vision, Life are on my own dime.Last edited: Oct 12, 2025 at 4:19 PM
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Lots of factors to consider. I was on a mileage contract at FCC and utilizing everything they provide and that I had access to 2024 was the most profitable I’ve had. Yes I was at other places where you gross a lot more and the top line looks better on paper. But at FCC fuel was significantly cheaper, my physical damage policy was significantly cheaper than what I was paying Great West and had better coverage, I could get discounts on parts at Peterbilt, discounts on tires, etc.
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