Maybe there's exceptions but so far in our 3 Kenworths with X15 engines with TX-18 transmission the jakes do not activate at all on cruise. Haven't checked to see if that's just another computer setting.....
Automatic transmission with Jake's going down the hill
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mitmaks, Dec 19, 2025 at 2:17 AM.
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If your truck is anything like mine your engine brake won’t engage below 35 mph and that means you won’t have it below 8th gear, so basically your truck simply isn’t specced for hills. A programming change has to be done.
For now you’ll have to use manual mode and lock it into probably 4th or so and crawl down the hills at a snail’s pace since you work for a company that won’t allow you to do it the right way. Hopefully they didn’t go full stupid and disable the manual mode. -
That should be in the programming also. My 2022 with the auto was set to kick on at 3 over. The 2026 I drive now with a manual is the same, kicks on at 3 over on cruise.Oxbow and BlackjackCo Thank this.
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I thought that was the case with mine, but then I noticed that going down a hill in cruise control that the engine brake would kick in once my speed reached 5 mph higher than the cruise control. I’d note that it took me a year in this truck before I noticed that!BlackjackCo Thanks this.
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So it would appear that drivers dont know how to go down a hill.
Its been my experience that I use my brakes going down hills. In my experience the engine brake will over rev the engine, So I brake going down. Slow down before you start down, maintain a slower speed right from the beginning.
I can stab brake, or light touch them constant without a problem, but would not depend on the engine brake to do anything but assist me.
But then what do I know I haven't been driving but a few short decades.OldeSkool Thanks this. -
Why ride the brakes if you don’t have to? Especially with the engine brakes on emission motors? Even before that I somehow managed to get a lot of loads down a hill at 105k in the northwest without riding the brakes.
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I dont consider using my brakes going down hill, riding my brakes. I use my brakes including the engine brake when I think its the best way to handle a situation. When I teach a new driver I dont even allow them the use of a engine brake for the first 4 weeks or so. They need to be taught how to control there speed without one.
I have never had a problem with my brakes overheating.
Most drivers are not paying attention and enter the downhill at to high of speed to start with,BlackjackCo Thanks this. -
I agree but also as Longfld notes different setups, loads, types of roads etc require different applications. I drive the rockies on many steep, narrow and windy highways (you want to test your skills drive US-50 from Delta UT to Fallon, NV..... 15-17 mountain passes with 3-12% grades. )..... My truck is 105,000-110,000 lbs on those and rarely am I getting over 20-24 mph on a downhill with sharp narrow corners. The jakes make a huge difference. Even driving down the 1 mile road out of the mine at 8-10 mph without Jake's and locking truck in lower gear will crank the rpms within seconds after applying foot brakes to get down to 5 mph in 3rd gear. But like everything else in being a professional driver..... There is no "one size fits all solution"..... It's going to vary from rig setup to rig setup, load variables, changing road conditions, driver experience etc. I get frustrated seeing so many people say "this is how you do it"..... There are common foundations of knowledge and listening to experienced drivers is important in learning but it's not always the best for a given scenario.
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I agree completely, there is no one fits all answer, why it is so important for a new driver to learn how to use whats available.BlackjackCo Thanks this.
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