Hypothetical question about CSA 2010

Maybe or Not. The older Inspections carry less "weight." In your example the out of service violation was in the 3rd year. The next year it would not count as much. Worried about 1 inspection messing you up? Easy fix, get your ducks in a row and go ask for more inspections.

 

Correct...the "multiplier" for the points lessens as the time line increases. You can't look at the point system like you do the recap on your log book.

 

The thing that blows my mind is how the officers are acting about CSA2010 right now.
They are on a rampage to get inspections done so that all carriers have a history. Not really an issue with large carriers, since they get audited every few years anyway and get inspected at a good rate due to volume of trucks.
The smaller carriers may not have much info though, and one truck fleets they may have nothing on at all.
So to try and fix this they are trying to get as many inspections as they can on all carriers.
So far I have no issue.

Where the issue is, is that many of these officers feel that they have to get you for something. And many times they are giving out warnings and not citations, if the drivers attitude is good, and it is minor.
The problem is that unless it gets fixed in CSA2010, the warnings carry the same weight as a citation on the safety rating. The officers however do not seem to know this. They think they are doing you some kind of favor not giving you a citation you can fight. But with a warning you cannot even try and fight it.

What will eventually happen, with this whole "need to get something one them" idea is that they will make it so most of the drivers on the road are no longer employable.
The police do not want Mexican drivers here any more than we do. So that theory is out the window.
Plus, contrary to popular opinion, Canadian and Mexican carriers will have a rating also. This will not shut down the company, but will cause them to loose their authority in the US.

 

After three years, the points fall off your CSA2010 rating. That's for drivers. Carriers only have points for two years. IMO, that's bogus. How many of us have run for carriers who refuse to fix problems on their company trucks? Why should this make them care any more than they already do? It's off their record in two years vs. three for the driver.

 

The driver has to only worry about him/herself verses the company has all it's drivers and trucks feeding back to their record. The companies will have to comply with driver requests or be forced out just like a bad driver will.

The three year rating should give you time to better your report if you have a bad year. I don't like the fact that they are going back two years now just to compile data and points. A slap on the hand in the past is now a major deal all of a sudden for some.

I'd say in the next couple of years we will see alot of company buy outs along with driver turnover.

 

The company I run for is finding out that the folks they thought were their best drivers would have the highest number of points if this went into effect tomorrow. Kind of makes you wonder how a "good driver" is rated.

 

I haven't heard about guys doing more inspections than before or "looking" for violations. Maybe some States are. There is new material available about CSA 2010 from the FMCSA web site. I pasted the information and provided the link below.


http://csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/whats_New.aspx#14465



May 28, 2010
Highlights
New CSA 2010 Materials Now Available!
Did You Know? Comprehensive Safety Analysis 2010 (CSA 2010) does not give FMCSA the authority to remove 175,000 drivers from their jobs and cannot be used to rate drivers or to revoke a Commercial Driver’s License (CDL). FMCSA does not have the authority to take those actions. Only State agencies responsible for issuing licenses, CDL or otherwise, have the authority to suspend them. CSA 2010 does introduce a driver safety assessment tool to help enforcement staff evaluate drivers’ safety as part of motor carrier investigations.

This is just one of several facts explained in the new Just the Facts flyer. Just the Facts sets the records straight on the most common myths about the program. More “Just the Facts” facts will be added in the coming weeks.

Several other new pieces of collateral material have also been added to the website. (Please note that the Data Review Supplemental Slides include animation.)

Materials

• Data Review Supplemental Slides (to augment the Industry Briefing) (PPT, 2.7 MB)
• Introduction to the Safety Measurement System Briefing - en español (PPT, 1.7 MB)
• CMV Driver Slides - en español (PPT, 1.6 MB)
• Updated – Industry Briefing - en español (PPT, 5.1 MB)