Dwayne - glad you appreciate a good debate! I will add this, there are drivers out there that have no business behind the wheel of anything, let alone a big truck.
With the high school education out there these days, good spelling and proper grammar are optional from what I have seen of some of the schools. I have two sons out of high school already and one that will be in 10th grade this fall. With the educators and school districts more worried about hurting Johnny and Jane's feeling than teaching the kids the basics, I am amazed graduation rates have not dropped a lot.
Do any of you know
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I do! And, I could not agree with you more. It's really a shame schools make it like that too.
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Hell, a monkey could drive a truck! At least that's what most of these trucking companies would have us think. I believe it was the great Pink Floyd who said, "we don't need no education". I couldn't have said it any better myself!
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Arkansas only has elementary schools. There's no need for High Schools as they all drop out by the 3rd grade. They make good truck drivers though.
Same with dentists offices, they go bankrupt.
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when i got mine the only thing they asked me was wether or not i had driven said vechile 500 miles or not.... i said yes....i had driven that many miles at 14 ....... pulp wood truck....had it to they switched to cdl's..... got grandfathered in to the cdl.....never had any test ,,ever...


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Worse than the schools themselves are the products being produced by the schools. Their quality control seems to be lax, at best, and could be non-existent, --- a result of budget cuts, no doubt.
Eliminating quality control would not only save bucks paid out in paychecks, but it would also eliminate the bottle-neck caused by students who've failed that are trying to get up to speed. All that takes extra effort from all involved. Extra effort costs extra money.
Nothing really amazing about that, Lilbit. To keep the numbers from dropping, they've lowered the standards for meritocracy to include those with average, or barely average, abilities with matching skills performance.
The schools claim to want all the students to get an equal chance to learn, stressing the importance of a level playing field of fairness. On that field are students with parents illegally in this country, who don't speak English, and probably not very well educated, who won't be helping their child learn English, or with their homework, but expecting the child's teacher to work miracles while providing a free education.
Fine and dandy.
But while teachers are catering to Juan and Jose, John and Joe are put on hold. If they're lucky, their parents will pick up where the teacher left off. If not, ---- they'll be equal to Juan and Jose.
Win/Win situations are easy to attain by just adjusting a few requirements downward, and redefining meanings and terminologies to match whatever conditions need attention.
But, realistically, what did we expect from an education system that deduced over a decade ago that being smarter isn't fair, and proceeded to dummy-down to make it even. The dummies didn't get smarter as a result, nor did the smart get smarter, but they're still smarter than the dummies.
Mission Impossible, some things just can't be done -----
without a teacher's union. The teacher's union likes numbers.
Statistics.
Percentages.
And they know how to manipulate them to their advantage, and present them as proof that Johnny can read. He just lacks the ability to comprehend the words he reads.
A child is a product of their environment.
How they were raised is reflected in them.
Students are no different.
The teachers of today were students of a dummied-down educational system that stressed touchy feel-good, instead of unadulterated realism.
We're witnessing the results of that education.
Can y'all imagine what the next generation of teachers will be like?
By the way, whatever happened to the original poster askin' questions, but obviously not real interested in the answers? This thread was started two weeks ago, and the OP hasn't been seen in two weeks --- after all of 3 posts total.
I wonder if the OP found the "write" direction?
I'm still curious if the alleged school assignment was chosen by the student, or given to the student with no options. I'm also curious why such a topic was considered. Will the information gleaned be used by someone in some way to make some kind of point?
Twisted Statistics?
Oh well, .............. as interested to know answers as the OP seems to be, the assignment will probably not be turned in, and receive an INCOMPLETE grade, which is probably still a passing grade if there's a good excuse for not completing the assignment.
My baby sister ate it.
or
My dog flushed it down the toilet
are examples of good excuses.:smt112
I'm thinkin' a good topic for an assignment would be,
Are there any teachers who are smarter than their fifth grade class students?
and, if so,
What country did they receive their superior education from?
Throw in a bonus question -----
Why can't Johnny read?
I mean, with book titles like
Heather Has Two Mommies
and
Daddy Has A Roommate,
and
It Takes A Village, ---------

How can a student resist readin'?
:smt069

Hmmmmmmmm,
Then again, maybe they're better off not readin'.
Ya reckon.
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And you graduates from college when?
Actually college does prepare you better for life than high school. Common get really. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates do you really thing they would have archived what they have, without education. That is just a ignorant statement.
I drive a truck out of choice, I enjoy what I do. I have had business, created jobs and sold them. I have had my own trucks, same thing for the little bit of profit more to own one I don't believe its worth it.
For me the stress level was to high, IMHO. I do not have that stress driving. But without going to college I would have had a more difficult time starting and operating the business of the past, those business have secured my retirement and maybe if were lucky have something left over for the kids.
But do not discount the importance of education. Education is the stairway to making fantasy a reality. You can not make a choice about something you don't know of, Education teaches you what you have a choice about.
And yes I have times when my knuckle drag the ground.
Be Safe.jakebrake12 Thanks this. -
I got my diploma normally out of the 12th grade.Then I had a 2 yr college stint then ran out of money for tuition. College wasn't for me anyway. I had to make money because of a family situation. I think what might be more important is the ability of a given driver,sound judgment,reading,writing.actual hazard driving ability to avoid major crashes, damage or even death ..Most modern drivers out of "The School" where 3 weeks and 6-8 grand later and your a truck driver are the ones that concern me. I've seen these guys all wadded up many times as I drive by .
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I understand and agree with you, it shows integrity that you would drop classes to take care of family. I think we all agree that a 3 week course does not make you a truck driver, it only makes you ready to be a student at best. I've don't the training thing, and all students first thing they tell you is I'm not cheating on my logs, so I think its funny because it seems most new people on the board say the same thing. I stress more on safe operation than stretching the book.
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I have a GED
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