Hours Of Service - Is this Legal???

Thanks for clearing this all up peoples!

 

I agree split sleeper is confusing for the most part, I have tried before and lets just say my coloring book had about 2 pages left and I got a new one lol, The thing that really gets me is when you drive say 8 take 8 off drive 2 take 2 you can now drive another 9 right? because you have taken your 10 but start with 2 off 11 because you took those 2 after the 8?

 

Yep... you subtract whatever drive time is on the other side of the break you just took, from 11, to get the remainder of your drive time. It's not hard at all, just takes a little subtraction.

Edit:

The only time it can get confusing is when you have a lot of time on line 4, which may bite into your drive time. Everyone reading this obviously has access to a computer--cough up $50 for DDL Lite and let it take care of the math. It helps you avoid those 15 minute mistakes, even if you do your logs by hand.

 

simple my booty! I no longer work for a carrier that runs an EOBR, and will infact, never work for one that does again. The EOBR made it simple, but..I will never split break again unless it's a real simple one. For example, like...if i drive 4 hours, get to my consignee, they take 8 hours to unload me...I'm gonna drive another 7 hours! But the 2-8-2 crap? To hell with that. I would rather cheat my log and make it easy.

 

so drive 6 take 8 off drive 4 take 2 still have 9 correct? that would be around 14 hrs drive in this case correct? I will ask a bunch of dumb ?s in this one too try and help myself as well as some others learn a little more about it if you guys dont mind answering the dumb ones lol.

 

Is that a DDL?

 

No... not correct this time.

Drive 6
take 8 off
drive 4
take 2 off
7 available

Think of it this way: the drive time on either side of a break period must add up to no more than 11 hours... whether that break period is 8 or 2, doesn't matter.

Here would be an example:

drive 3 --
off 8 **** 11
drive 8 --
off 2 **** 10
drive 2 --
off 8 **** 11
drive 9 --
off 2 **** 11
drive 2 --
off 8 **** 7
drive 5 --
off 2 **** 11
drive 6 --

See the pattern?

 

Yes, that's a screen shot from DDL on my laptop.

 

And that's about as simple an explanation of the split rule that I've seen yet. Thanks Lil.

If yer still confused about it after reading that, ya might wanna consider having someone show you in an actual log book, or just give up worrying about it altogether.

IMO, the split is one of our best, but most underutilized, tools in the HOS for making on time pick-ups and deliveries, especially when dealing with live load/unloads.

But it is also prolly the biggest source for confusion too. I really wish they'd bring back the old splits where you could break up the 10 however you wanted too.... *sigh* Too bad I started driving AFTER they changed that.

Edit: Also note for this to work the 8 hour break MUST be in the sleeper berth and MUST be 8 straight hours. The 2 can be either line 1 or 2 but must also be 2 straight hours, no 30 minutes here, 45 there, etc.