Leaky Dash Tractor valve?

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  1. black_dog106

    black_dog106 Road Train Member

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    As small truck said, the insert keeps hose from crushing when sleeve is torqued down. And brake parts should be DOT approved. Your Ace hardware will most likely have the stuff to get you going, however.
    http://www.nutsandbolts.com/brass-a...5.html?zenid=e41bc7bd4a16505be941943d1d5e44ea
    I keep alittle of everything around and some of it in the truck. Stuff does break and it is much cheaper than road service. And i take pride in getting the truck home when something does break.
     
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  3. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Ace had all the parts. Now to see if I can reassemble them w/o air leaks..
     
  4. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Allright - that fixed it. I put the whole thing together and even after making it more than snug ("pssst" sound out the fitting) - so I gave it a 1/4 turn. Then a bit more...and more and the "pssst" started to get less until "PSSSTSTOP". And that was it. I gave it 1/8 turn more for good measure. Fired it up and water/soap tested GOOD.

    Not sure if I should leave it this way now or opt to replace the fitting with a quick disconnect thing from Fastenal.....if I replace the fitting, I likely will replace all of them just for good measure. But right now, all of the 5 hoses and fittings at the back of the combination valve are air tight to the best of my testing and hearing.

    I am sure none of the hardware I used is DOT compatible, but not sure what the difference really could be here. Brass is brass. It works and there are NO leaks at all.....not sure how they can make a fitting much different than what I used here..

    EDIT: Well gee...it worked ok for awhile...I got fuel, released the tractor brakes, heard air hissing again - BROWN Air tube.
    Got to my storage yard and tried it again - now it doesnt leak that I can tell.

    I am going to get the quick-fasteners and be done with this issue once and for all. :biggrin_25510:
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2010
  5. Krooser

    Krooser Road Train Member

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    Air hissing from a tractor protection valve is often just a hint that you have a leaking brake chamber.
     
  6. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    I know...but earlier in this thread, I narrowed it down to the valve. Replaced the valve, fixed one issue but created a new one.

    Brown hose leaks at the fitting....

    ..this is not to say I might not have other issues still, but when I have an air leak at a connection, I need that fixed before continuing troubleshooting.

    :biggrin_25521:
     
  7. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    some times those quick couplers can be a pig--if you had to cut the synflex make sure it is square with no raggy edges sometimesyou got put them in and twist them around a bit--the brass will work good just that it is more awkward to use--sometimes a good idea to put a tiny bit of pipe dope on your threads as well--stay away from teflon tape as suppoedly it can get in the abs and mess up the valves
     
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  8. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    I used tape on the threads...Hmm. If I redo this, I can easily remove that. I wrapped them very well - but your comment makes sense too......
     
  9. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    The dot approved compression fittings for plastic line are a higher quality design than the standard type. The standard type were not designed to handle high pressure and often fail. If you find a parts outlet that handles weatherhead fittings, they will be identified by purple tags on the cabinet drawer.
     
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  10. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Parker and some others also sell the dot fittings but I'm not real familiar with them. Hope this helps.
     
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  11. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Don't use tape on the threads. The threads do not have a sealing surface and if a piece of the teflon gets caught between the ferrule and flare, this could be what is causing your leak.

    Teflon tape is only for NPT fittings (pipe thread). If that's what you used the tape on then I apologize in advance. :)
     
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