Cdn Vs. US driving regulation questions for a newbie

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  1. Rat Fink

    Rat Fink Light Load Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm new to long-haul, and will be driving primarily cross-border into the states.

    I want to make sure I'm on the good side of the law with this. My question is with regards to gross vehicle weights. Here in canada we are allowed the following:

    5500 kgs (12,100 lbs) on the steering axle
    17000 kgs (37,400 lbs) on tandem axles.

    This would bring the gross weight of a tractor and tandem axle trailer upto 39,500 kgs (86,900 lbs).

    Now, from what I could find, this weight would be illegal in the states?

    I just want to make sure I'm not overweight when I get loaded somewhere. From my understanding I'd have to make sure I'm not more than 12000 lbs on my steering axle, and 34000 lbs on each tandem? (gross of 80,000 lbs) when crossing into the US?
     
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  3. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    12,000 lb.: steer 5,443.164 kg
    34,000 lb: drive 15,422.298 kg
    34,000 lb: trailer
    80,000 lb 35,287.761 kg

    Using the conversion rate of 1 kg = 2.2046 lb

    From a retired federal DOT official (equivalent to Transport Canada)
     
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  4. Rat Fink

    Rat Fink Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply!

    I'm going to be loaded less than gross for most loads except when I'm on this one run from BC into the states where they load me right to gross. Now I just need to make sure I'm loaded to US gross and not the Canadian limits.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Unless... :biggrin_255:









    you run a spread axle trailer. In which case you're allowed 40,000 lbs. on the trailer tandems in the U.S. BUT, put the axles back together when you cross the border as spreads aren't allowed in AB & BC (and you'll have to make sure you're at 17,000 kg on the trailer tandems then).
     
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  6. Rat Fink

    Rat Fink Light Load Member

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    Okay....so here's a situation for you. My trailer I'll be working with does have spread axles and I remember my boss mentioning spreading them to allow for more weight in the US.

    So it would be legal to be loaded 12000 lbs on the steering axle, 34000 lbs on the drives, and 37400 lbs (17000 kgs) on the trailer tandem as I roll through BC and Alberta. While I'm driving through Saskatchewan before dipping into the states I spread my axles and that would make that 37400 lb tandem weight on the trailer legal in the US? (since it is under 40,000 lbs)?

    Now, another question......if I spread my axle on the trailer, would it take weight off my drive axles since one of the rear axles would be moving forward?
     
  7. abjz71

    abjz71 Light Load Member

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    you can have up to 20k on your steers as long as you dont excide the load rating for the tires ie. my drives are rated for 6175 each so 6175x2=12350 so i can scale my drives out to 12350
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Every state is different for steering axles. Some only allow 12k. Others go by tire rating, some go by tire size.
     
  9. chefbob2

    chefbob2 Bobtail Member

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    last time I looked Ca was 12,500 and Ar was 12,000.
    the rest of USA is higher for steers.
    This way you can shift weight from drives to steers to make the drives and trailer tandems 34,000 or less.
    There is a axel weight guide in the front of your atlas to verify.
    good luck.
     
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