I would keep the 11 and 14. Sleeper berth and off duty time is where it needs to be fixed.
10 hours Off Duty is excessive. The average American doesn't get 8 hours of sleep, do they? 8 consecutive hours or split time of Off Duty/Sleeper Berth should reset your day. I don't sleep in my truck much, but when I do I go cab crazy for having to sit an extra couple of hours just to be legal.
I disagree with the way split Sleeper Berth currently has to be logged. Do away with the 2/8 hour split. Any combonation to get your 8 off should work for you (4/4, 5/3, 6/2). All of us know there are times when we just need an hour nap to feel refreshed when the "nods" come on. How nice would it be to be able to take a 4 hour break and have it actually count for something(without losing two hours of it)?
Breaks should suspend the 14 hour rule. If I take a 4 hour break, then it will add those 4 hours. Violation @ 4pm now extends me to 8 pm. This would greatly benefit those of us stuck at loading docks for more than 2 hours, but don't get enough time to reset our day. How many times have you been screwed by a shipper/receiver because of this?
The 16 hour rule should apply to all drivers. The way it is currently written, anyone who doesn't report to a "home terminal" daily or uses a sleeper berth can't use it. What about those of us who get caught up in accidents that shut the highway down? A once a week allowance for all drivers should be allowed. If you get a 34 hour reset, then you can use it again. What makes "local" drivers any safer than an OTR guy?
But honestly... how many of you all are active in writing your congressmen or senators? How many of you support OOIDA? All of this forum talk is nice, but DO SOMETHING! I e-mail my representatives about trucking issues-as all of us should. Get involved. Nothing changes without enough of us speaking out!
If you could change the Logs?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Feb 28, 2007.
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Who is to contact to get this change. Is there a rep? I am new to this so bare with me. I have done some helping on land problems in alaska before. I am starting my trucking and want to help not just set back and chat about it. I will write and help get others, my school and such to support this. I know I can write my congressmen but who is incharge for truckers?
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Good point. DOT's thinking on the 14 hour rule was to give you 3 extra hours in the period to eat, shower, load, fuel etc.
But you have a good idea.
I thought maybe have 2 sets of rules and the drivers can choose which one suits them and if they go into violation, no mercy on them!
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Bear makes some great points! Bear this is why I have started this thread to get some ideas and to convince drivers to speak up for themselves instead of gripping to their safety department. It does no good gripping to us, we are simply there to follow the rules, we can't change them
I don't have time to elebarate, but great ideas
Everyone in this thread needs to get together and keep it going and get your ideas that make sense and send them to DOT etc.
HAVE A GREAT DAY AND BE SAFE
I swear there is more accidents than ever before involving truck drivers
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you say they gave us the extra 3 to do that stuff but I hear the same thing about why we now have to take 10 hours off. In order to be able to eats etc. that stuff is off duty not on duty. It's redundant and causes nothing but problems.
I like your idea of two rules. I hadn't thought about it that way but it makes sense and is just like the 60/7 or 70/8 rules. Let s decide which ones work best for our situation. Of course it will just come down to the company deciding which set of rules lets them get us to work more. -
Links to your senators:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Links to your congressmen:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
OOIDA Call To Action:
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True if the company doesn't believe in the rule then you are short. You could look else where though. My thought is the company would agree with both sets as long as the driver is legal and HAPPY
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then you are either new or nieve and you never struck me as the later from the posts I'v read. I'v been in the industry for about 20 years...well my whole life actually but not actively, driving for coming on 12. There is only two things companies care about. Getting the most out of the driver, and getting it the cheapest possible way. I don't care what company it is. If you give them the opertunity to pick between two or three sets of rules they will find which one lets them run the driver the most and pick it. I'm not knocking them for it. I'd do it too. the bottom line is the bottom line afterall
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Now that's not true that no company cares! IF it is DOT reg's and you have an option to pick between to rules and both rules make sense, I don't understand why a company would not allow it unless they came out with something just down right difficult to understand (like split breaking) then I could see them saying no.
I am thinking positive and if we could get DOT to come out with 2 rules and the driver could pick what his/her body agree's with would only help the Revenue and the driver.
I am not by any means trying to be neive although hey I can be guilty of that
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you are saying two set of rules for the driver to choose. I say that would never happen if anything it would be two set of rules for the company to choose between. No company would want the extra work of keeping track of different drivers on different rules. Although it'd be job security for you. ANd I feel that if he company is given the choice they will choose what is best for them over what is best for the drivers every time.
I guess I have a fundamental distrust f my fellow human being but it has been earned.
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