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The fact is to sell a CB radio it must be certified NOW IF it is a 23 ch it was TYPE ACCEPTED the old form of certification. Current FCC rules REQUIRE certification AFTER Sept 10 1976.

NOW UNMODIFIED a 23 ch radio is legal to own REMEMBER if you have to recapp it or change out the many bad carbon resistors you would have to replace everything with exact parts. AGAIN the FCC does not inforce this however for the cost of a $40 40 ch why bother with any 23 ....

 

So in other words when the new 40 channels came out in '77, the FCC came out with a new type of certification that didn't apply to the older 23 channels?

Which I am going to guess that in order to sell a CB now it's suppose to meet the new 40 channel rule? Just trying to clear up all the confusion

Also there's a few older CB's I mentioned that are viewed as collectors items that IMO would be the only ones worth messing with.

Interesting enough you still see a lot of old 23 channels on eBay that don't seem to be getting their auctions pulled, unlike some sellers of linears.

 

CORRECT

the new certification is after Sept 10 1976 HOWEVER if a CB is UNMODIFIED and meets the old typr acceptance the FCC still allowes its use but AGAIN its a 35 year old radio and you can buy a new one for $40

The Idea was to get rid of all 23 ch radios the FCC beleved CBers would not even bother with them in a few years that was 32 years ago ......
There are so many EXPORT radios that the 23ch ones would be grouped in with them IF THE FCC was to bother

REMEMBER you are required to use a legal radio .....

Now class "A" and class "B" cb radios are VERY illegal today but also being on 465 mhz only a few exsisted them and VERY FEW now ...... If it says 465 mhz DON'T BUY IT just turning some on can interfer with local police and fire ! YES REGEN RECEIVERS NO RF STAGE very dirty .........

 

Thanx...yeah I've heard that about the earliest CB radios....would like to see what a class A or a class B looks like

 

Is a "Class A" radio illegal on GMRS?????

The predecessor to GMRS was named Class A Citizens Radio Service when it was rolled out in the 1960s. Tube type transceivers were used, and output power was limited to 60 watts (plate input power to the final amplifier tube). The original service ran wideband FM with ±15 kHz transmitter deviation and 50 kHz channel spacing. At the time, this was the norm for all U.S. land mobile services. There was also a Class B Citizens Radio Service which used a different set of 461 MHz channels and was limited to 5 watts output. Business users were permitted to license in this radio service. Radios were built by consumer electronics firms and commercial two-way radio vendors.
In the 1960s, the UHF 450-470 MHz band was re-allocated to 25 kHz channels. This meant transmitter deviation was reduced to ±5 kHz. This doubled the number of channels available across the entire 450-470 MHz band. Class B Citizens Radio Service channels were re-allocated to other radio services.
In the 1970s, allowed power was again changed to 50 watts across the output terminals of the transmitter. In 1987, licensing of business users was discontinued and businesses were allowed to continue operating until their licenses expired. There was congestion on all channels in larger metropolitan statistical areas and moving businesses to Business Radio Service channels would provide some relief. The radio service was changed to its present name.

 

This is interesting. I have not heard of the 23 channels being illegal to sell. Now I know that amplifiers are illegal to sell and buy without a license, Ebay even kills ads on thier site if they catch them being sold as 11M amps. What I dont understand is you can buy 23ch radios all day long on there. Why would they kick the amps off but not the 23ch radios?

Good bit of trivial info for the brain.

 

There is NO certification of CB amps so they have to meet the HAM RADIO certification rules and NO 27 mhz or even 10 meter amp meets that it's like EXPORTS the FCC has ruled you can't sell them either same reason ....
As for a license to have a amp thats a gray area if you have a ham license you can own a amp BUT to use it it has to be clean on the air even home built ones which you are allowed ONE per year modded or built again unless your out selling them the FCC really dosn't care.

As for 23 ch radios the FCC looks at them as junk 35 or more years old .... the FCC has better things to do and as pointed out WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY ONE ? IF a person is selling a large number of them on E-Bay and the FCC finds out they will be shut down but someone just selling old junk no one cares .... and they are junk ..... $40 buys you a 40 ch new.

Good example you buy a 23 ch SSB radio but to use it you have to mod it to go on ch 38 .... the radio is now outright illegal. Whats the point in buying them ?

I avoid old HAM radios same reason many don't even have a tone board and are xtal controled ... crystals will run you $40 - 60 a pair and without tone they are goon only for simplex even on 10 meters.

 

This one still works, not a great pic though.