PTDI Standards for Student Driving Hours

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Light Traveler, Feb 8, 2007.

Should PTDI increase the standard 44 hour "behind the wheel" minimum for students?

  1. *

    Yes

    70.6%
  2. No

    29.4%
  1. Light Traveler

    Light Traveler Light Load Member

    139
    9
    Feb 5, 2007
    Somewhere out there...
    0
    According to PTDI's website, entry level students are
    only required to drive a minumum of 44 hours. Yet,

    the mandated classroom time is 104 hours, which are
    spent on talking and watching videos. I've read
    several complaints on this forum from recent grads,
    about the deficiency of their training, which made them
    (graduates) reluctant when test driving for a company.
    Should PTDI reevaluate the standards or is this
    information incorrect and/or outdated?

    Instructional Time
    q Does each student receive at least 104 (60-minute) hours in classroom and lab time? (Lab includes time on the range under the supervision of an instructor. Observation time does not count as instructional time.)
    q Does each student receive at least 44 (60-minute) hours of actual behind-the-wheel time? (This is time with hands actually on the wheel, with at least 12 hours on the range and 12 on the road and the other 20 hours on either.)
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

    3,255
    2,243
    Jan 12, 2007
    0
  4. dstockwell

    dstockwell Light Load Member

    278
    6
    Oct 11, 2006
    Georgia
    0
    I understand curriculum is based on contact hours, however why don't they say you need to drive a specific amount of miles. We had 64 hours of classroom, will do 88 hours of range, and 750 miles road. for a total of 230 hours for the class.
     
  5. munrkr

    munrkr Medium Load Member

    375
    27
    Dec 14, 2006
    0
    44 hours seems a little short. When one considers the many skills there are to aquire (sp) ie; shifting various gear configurations, backing, cornering, driving grades, highway, city etc. Of course some will pick up these skills quicker than others, but seems barely enough time to become proficient. I'm in a PTDI school now and have logged maybe 30 hours behind the wheel, but not all of that time is exactly productive. Spent "waiting in line" for turn at exercises. So all I have learned is shifting (9-speed only), cornering (some), straight-line backing & alley docking. I'm going on the streets maybe today for my first time! So although I'm probably not the quickest learner, you can see how quickly 44 hours goes. Fortunatley, I have 5 1/2 weeks left. and there is a 1000 mile driving requirement to graduate. Over-all, I'm pleased with the instruction at FVTC (Appleton, WI), and glad I didn't do the quick and dirty thing down state MI. One criticism though, I wish they'd require learner's permit and endorsements of students before class begins. It seems to me that this is something totaly do-able, so why waste value-able time (and $$). Also, some of the lecture was long winded. What I felt could have been said in 15 minutes was stretched to 3 1/2 hours. Lastly I just want to say that I wouldn't recomend extending behind the wheel time at the expense of classroom time IF that classroom time is well spent. For examples, demonstrations of all sorts ie; tarping, coupling, field trip to the scales, Sliding tandems, fifth wheels, how to figure bridge weights, trip planning, etc. We shouldn't be forced to choose between good instruction and behind the wheel time. Speaking of which, it's time to go. Drive safe.
     
  6. larryh31

    larryh31 Light Load Member

    131
    72
    Jul 24, 2006
    Washington, DC 20032
    0
    CDL schools are set up to teach you the basics so that you can pass your states road test. More time behind the wheel would be great. But, you should not expect to be a super trucker after a few weeks of school. Thats why almost every company that hires new drivers send them out for an additional 3 to 6 weeks with a trainer after you already have your cdl. They know that you are still grinding gears and having a tough time doing various backing manuvers. Nobody in there right mind at a company orientation for rookie drivers is expecting you to be perfect coming right out of school. You should understand the basics, you should know all of the safety procedures like G.O.A.L , and you should have a positive attitude.

    That little bit of fear that you feel while driving is going to help keep you alive. It's when you get to so comfortable with backing, etc that you stop using pull-ups and G.O.A.L is when you will hit something or someone.
     
  7. kitering

    kitering Bobtail Member

    31
    0
    Oct 8, 2007
    Forest City, NC
    0
    44 hours is enough hours for someone to become a qualified entry level driver. This is 44 actual hours of driving. It is not observation hours. There are many requirements within this like driving under a load and night time driving. It is a good design that covers all the bases to make an entry level driver. Then it is up to the company to provide instruction on their equipment and their systems.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.