FAT people are Discriminated against at prime

Are you saying if you can't reach it, it won't get washed?

 

i think maybe he couldnt wash under the rolls maybe?
i dont even know what to compare that smell to--wasnt just normal bo--it would take your breath away

 

The O/P who is 5'7" and 190 is a guy. Look at the pic he has as his avatar. He's the guy under the woman. If you're paying attention, you can see he's not fat.

 

I started reading this thread a little...and actually got irritated by all the BMI BS that is going around.

If anyone was/is paying attention to the new regs coming down...CSA2010...BMI has nothing to do with passing a physical, being physically fit to do the job, or has anything to do with getting/not getting hired by any company.

This came from the head medical examiner advising the CSA2010 issues and configurations. Any sleep disorders, sleep medication required, stress medication required, BP, and cholesterol counts/indexes. As far as the BMI issue...there are far to many variables with specific individuals to put out a "mean average" to be used on all people. Race, gender, family history, age...you name it it gets figured into any "standards" that any medical group will find issues with another group to challenge and/or totally disagree with any findings.

You cannot compare equally the 23 year old, who has "bulked up" using non-steroid natural carbohydrates to be better "equipped" for college football, wrestling or weight lifting, to a 40 year old who has been living a sedentary lifestyle for the past 20 years. Each individual is different, and medical societies understand and equate these differences when making any determinations about a "study group", in this case truck drivers.

An unusually high BMI will get the individual some counseling from the Dr. or dietitian about the health risks the individual is looking at in their future, and a course for correction to get the BMI headed to a better point.

Please read "Driver Fitness" in the link provided!

http://www.bigrigdriving.com/2010/csa-2010/understanding-the-six-csa-2010-basics

 

Excellent information, OHTW. And in the individual cases like our O/P, the doc would take one look at him and not waste his time. Our O/P would have no trouble getting a job and will not have to take a sleep study.

 

It's not the OP... its the "roommate." "Roommate" is well beyond the limits set by Prime for sleep apnea screening...

 

Here is a good site if you want the facts. csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/JustTheFacts.pdf. This will clarify some things. However the bottom line is that unless a perspective employer violates a hiring policy, and these Laws only cover protected groups/practices. I.E. You can't descriminate (hire or not hire) based on race, gender, etc., there isn't a whole lot you can do. Basically as long as they apply (their own) hiring criteria equally to everyone, then you have no grounds for any action. But I can tell you that now a GREAT deal of hiring decisions are based on the impact that an employee will have on the (Total Employee Health Pool). Many companies are just struggling to keep health care available for their employees. And many Insurance companies are mandating hiring policies to their customers, or (if the employer doesn't follow their guidelines) they will put your "Pool" in a higher risk catagory which raises the premiums for the company.

 

I disagree to some extent with this formula, only because of the fact that pre-exiting conditions (like obesity) were one of the principal reasons for health care reform being implemented, so there is no longer a good reason for people to be without some sort of coverage as long as they are employed and paying taxes. Like automobile insurance being compulsory in many states and in Canada, it shouldn't be a major consideration to hiring or not when looking at potential hiring decisions in the future. The main issue involved with a heavy person is the RISK of developing hypertension, diabetes, or heart disease, which ARE disqualifiers under the current CFR's. It's no big secret to anyone in this business that long haul work is very stress filled, with a very sedentary lifestyle and a steady diet of junk food to live on in order to keep the wheels turning and money being made. If an otherwise healthy normal weight person goes into this job and it is not unusual for that person to gain a substantial amount of weight after a few years of doing it, then there is a good reason to give a significant amount of concern to someone already overweight starting out. There are other factors to consider as well, but retention in this trade is very low as it is, so there must be other factors that were not discussed that were involved in the decision making process. Many training companies have enough people failing drug tests in the pre-employment process, so they are likely using this factor as a pre-screening to keep the recruitment costs down and be able to bring in the best possible batch of people into the school or company. Psycological tests like the MMPI and other variants used to be another tool at other companies, but again, the retention rates being what they are, many have abandoned them due to the need to fill seats. It's a balancing act where the lines are blurry and the lines keep changing based on needs. All CSA2010 will do is document the rouge operators that routinely break the rules as part of the way they make money. It won't do a thing to reform the industry. That will take a bit bigger reform that the current administration isn't seeking because it's not a popular political item, so it'll go on the back burner for another 4 to 6 years as far as I see it.

 

My buddy is 6'1 and about tree fiddy, and just signed a lease and took his truck. Now, I know he had to do the sleep study, and he got stuck with the mask apparatus, but he still was accepted by Prime. His BMI is over 40, so I wouldn't say 39 is a cut off that disqualifies you for employment. Just some first hand information.

 

HA, im 61 and I weigh 340. I also squat 800 max, but stay around 450. I bench 350 and leg press 1100..

I am obese by BMI standards..

Anyways sucks to hear that about prime, I don't have sleep problems, dont smoke or use drugs and rarely RARELY drink. I love water but sometimes I eat burgers etc.

I had hopes for prime and even talked to them... Sad but whatever. Ill be starting a new 48 state company and its more inportant than ever to watch what I eat. I plan to do just that.


PS, I did not piss my pants, I had leaned against the side of the counter against the sink and got wet.