Good morning folks.
I am in the market for my 2nd truck it seems and i was thinking about going cummins this time. I heard there is 3 engine families of the ISX, and only one is good? I assume like the cats it goes by the serial number, if so, what do i look for and which ones to avoid.
The truck i am looking at is a 2006 with a 530hp cummins. It has 1,038,000, so about 650,000 miles roughly.
Does anyone here have a high mileage ISX? They dont seem to make it to high mileages with the high soot levels they produce internally. The other concern is i know these run very hot oil temperatures, likely another cause of premature failure.
Is this a good buy, or something to steer away from? The rest of the truck is immaculate.
high mileage ISX.
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Tank33, Oct 28, 2010.
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fist that fails is EGR valve and EGR cooler. Injectors fail rarelly, but actuators may be worn causing rought idle.
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Like pablo said EGR valve and cooler will go, EGR diff tubes also. Internally it seems to be a great motor havent hardly seen any major failures
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aha! I've forgoten to say about EGR sensor.. replace it with EGR!
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We have around 20 ISX's like said before EGR coolers, EGR valves, they eat up turbo's, turbo actuators, etcc, if something happens internally 9 out of 10 times it will destroy the entire motor. My addvice get a pre EGR ISX or get a 2010 model where they moved the EGR over to the cold side of the motor, they do not have nearly as many problems. These motors get good fuel mileage and pull decent. Just my 2 cents.
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Another thing is these motors have hardly no oil pressure it can drive you crazy if you look at the guage long enough
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The EGR is not a real problem if you have the ingenuity to get around it. Have had the EGR blocked at the intake manifold for a long time. Did start to get a couple of codes a while back. Yep, EGR valve took a dump. No problem, it is still on there and will not get replaced. No change in performance and still in the mid to high 7's mpg average. Oil samples still good and no other issues. 630,000 miles on the engine and the EGR has been essentially non functional for the around 230,000 miles. One heck of a lot less soot. Oil doesn't even start to darken up until it has around 5000-6000 miles on it. Soot levels on oil samples at 25,000 miles around 1%. Since the EGR has been blocked, wear metals dropped almost 2/3 less than before I dealt with the EGR. Even when I did this while still under the 500,000 mile warranty, Cummins could care less. I had the engine in for a couple of non emissions related issues that were warranty covered and Cummins honored the warranty even though they knew what I had done and, in fact, I had discussions with the techs about it while I was there.
Now, all this being said, I would have to side with the comment that a pre-emissions ISX or even and N-14 would be a better choice. But the trucks they are in are usually beat up by now. A new glider kit truck with one of these engines would be the best way a person could go. Mine is a 2005 built ISX in a 2006 International 9400i.Last edited: Oct 28, 2010
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How did you block off your EGR? The unplug trick or something else?
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Ok, so I'm not crazy then. I always thought the oil pressure was low pinging between 30-40 psi. For some reason I thought the pressure would be a little bit higher and maybe I had a problem... And I've pointed it out to our mechanics at our shop but they just say it is fine (but don't really know what the normal operating pressure is!).
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Cummins are known for low oil pressures. All the N14 series did it, and all the ISX engines do it too.
I think the key would be to block off the EGR valve, and then your oil temperature will be considerably lower. It actually only takes 12 PSI of oil pressure for oil to reach the top of the engine, so even though Cummins engines are about 30 at idle, it is still enough. If you have to much oil pressure, it is moving to fast and just foaming/bypassing parts anyways.
The biggest concern I have with these engines is very high oil temperatures. Heat is always the leading cause of failed components.
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