Mountain driving during the winter

Discussion in 'The Welcome Wagon' started by airram, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. airram

    airram Light Load Member

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    I could turn this into a long one,but i won't. The company i work for sends at least 4-6 loads a day up to Grand Junction,for those that know the terrain know that the only way to get there is up and through the mountains.

    The only time they do not run is when they(the state)shutsdown I-70,but as soon as it is opened up we are out there running again. I have mountain driving knowledge out east when i was OTR,but not out here in CO,and not with a set a doubles either.

    The reason for the post is i am trying to get some advice on this. During the winter at my place doing that run is a real crap-shoot. What i mean by that is--when the weather gets crappy and the freight has got to move...everybody is fair game.

    Particular advice i am looking for is--chaining,how to ascend/decsend grades,braking--etc. On dry pavement none of this would really be an issue for me,but when the roads are going too be snow/ice packed it changes the game.
     
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  3. Rocky64

    Rocky64 Medium Load Member

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    subscribing, in hopes of reading advice themed posts from the old timers.
     
  4. WileyHunter

    WileyHunter Light Load Member

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    There is a discussion (several actually) going on about chains, one here: http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...uckers-advice/124784-hanging-tire-chains.html which started as how to hang/store them, but there is some advice in there about chaining up.

    In general I think - if you are questioning whether you should be chaining up or not, it is probably better to err on the side of caution and do it. Of course CO pretty much determines when to chain up for many out there. I don't know if they call it prematurely or not, but they will call it.

    As far as the rest - taking it easy will get you further than trying to hotdog. As has been/will be mentioned - usually those you see (both trucks and 4 wheelers) in the ditch are those that let their egos out run their & their equipments abilities.

    Don't let ANYONE pressure you into running in conditions you are not comfortable with, OR into going faster/without chains/etc... when you know you shouldn't.

    NO LOAD out there is worth a human life, whether it's your own or an innocent bystanders. Be safe and good luck.
     
    otherhalftw Thanks this.
  5. Longhood379

    Longhood379 Medium Load Member

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    All of the above and ,run as low of tire pressure that you can get away with ,figure out if your ABS shuts your jake off. make sure you chain on dry pavement before the storm season to make sure they fit and you know how to do it. make sure the air dryer has been serviced lately
    If you pull the same trailers all or the time try to figure out which wheel is most likely to lock up and chain that one for icey decents
    If for any reason you feel it is so bad that you need to chain the steers tell the dispatcher he should make this run
     
  6. Rocky64

    Rocky64 Medium Load Member

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    With 9 years 4 wheeler experience in the northern-most county in Maine,(Aroostook) I have a good idea how to handle snow and ice, on 4 wheels.....(very limited experience on 5 axles)


    All things being equal, on a grade, which will lose traction first, a pickup truck or a Big Truck at 60 or 70 or even 80k? All variables being equal...
     
  7. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    The pick-up...there is little or no weight on the traction axle. A big rig hauling at a gross weight of 60-80k has the weight bearing down on all axles, establishing traction and resistance. Now when a tractor/trailer running empty, there is no real weight on the drive axles and especially light on the trailer axles (tandems)...so with being empty, the trailer axles will be the first to skid, then the drives, and last the steer axles...not a good scenario!
     
  8. FriedTater

    FriedTater Keeper of The Snakes

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    Cant walk on it you #### sure ain't driving on it,drivers without experience chunking iron shouldn't be pressured to roll under liability.
    Times are different now,they are playing for keeps.
    If you have to question what you have to do,dont do it.
    Otherwise fall all in and hope your lucky . . . . .
     
  9. rambler

    rambler Road Train Member

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    Drive ahead of yourself much more so than under dry conditions. It bears repeating....look much further ahead than you would under good conditions. Any body can hammer down....stopping quickly is the trick some don't think about untill it's crunch time. If an accident unfolds directly in front of you and you KNOW theres no way to stop with out folding up or ramming into them drive around if any room possible to do so. Just do your best not to get into a situation where hard, quick stopping is required. As mentioned before a drop in tire pressure is helpful. Above all let your conscience be your guide and use common sense. Rocky mountain snow is normally much drier and easier to drive in than say the snow in NC or Va. Hopefully you will have plenty of weight in the wagon on your run...makes thing much better going up and down.
     
  10. airram

    airram Light Load Member

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    As far as braking--i can't really use my jake...or can i?? I used to play around with the grades on the minimal mountain driving i did/do have--like picking the gear i used to go up to go down,letting the RPM's get to about 2200 then brake her down,and repeat the process without overheating my shoes.

    I just see the above scenario i just explained being a little bit of a problem with the snow. I can see the drives locking up if the Jake is on high,but low...i dunno.
     
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