engine and transmission removal

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Gulfstream, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. Gulfstream

    Gulfstream Bobtail Member

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    I recently purchased a 02 t-600, for a VERY good price. The engine has to come out ( I need the crank replaced ) and I want the transmission out as well.
    My question is, does anyone have experience pulling the engine and transmission as one unit? Is it possible or will it be to unbalanced with only being able to be lifted at the block?
    I have no shortage of ways to lift things from above. However I am a little short in the drop the transmission from underneath department.
    so much so, I was thinking of pulling the entire cab.

    Anyone with experience doing something like this, I would love to hear about it.
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    This is how they are assembled. Engine and trans already bolted together when it is dropped into the chassis. Engine is always way heavier than trans. As long as you have the proper overhead lift for the weight you should be fine. Hopefully the original lifts are still bolted to the engine.
     
  4. CallMeArty

    CallMeArty HaMMeRED DoWN

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    I had the experience of being tasked to pull and replace a C12 out of a military vehicle. The motor threw a rod and put a hole in the block. Know this particular truck had a up armor kit on the cab and plates covering the drive train. I HAD to pull the cab because the technical manual stated it was necessary. It was really only necessary because the amount of time it would have taken to disassemble the armor and re install it. Long story short yes I used the manufactures lifting brackets and a extra chain to rig/level out the motor and automatic Allison transmission together. It was also necessary to use a tag line to prevent the motor and tranny from swinging all over the place.

    Cab off, Motor and transmission out. It wasn’t a big deal pulling all that apart. It was a big deal tagging all the airlines and wiring harness. Took 2 days start to finish.

    So go ahead and pull the hood off that anteater. Cooler, radiator, fan and get after it man!:biggrin_2556:
     
  5. country29

    country29 Medium Load Member

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    pull the hood, radiator, fan etc. and start pullin. we always used a good sized forklift, a long 3/4" plate boom and some heavy duty chains to pull ours. but you know what you have at your disposal, so make what you got work for you that will be easiest. good luck.
     
  6. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    dont pull the cab--thats just extra work and extra cost
    you can pull both together as long as you have a leveling system on your chain--
    or else just pull them seperate--that would almost be easier--truck doesnt have to be very high to get transmission out---probabely dont have to raise it at all---you can rent a tranny jack pretty reasnoble
     
  7. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    it is possible, we used to remove hood, radiator and intercooler, but IMHO, it is easier to drop a tranny first, becouse I'm sure you will find some clutch pats worn and anyway engine and tranny must be separated.

    There are many ways to drop a tranny, use truck lifter and, tranny jack ore sometimes old tire...

    Why I do prefere drop tranny first? it is so easy to damage cabine, windshield, with tranny, belive me, no reason.
     
  8. Gulfstream

    Gulfstream Bobtail Member

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    Thanks to all, I appreciate all the input.
    I am going to go ahead and get the hood, bumper and radiator/condensor/intercooler out , and then get them both out together. A good friend has a wrecker service and owns an unreasonably expensive rotator truck, I would be guessing at the lifting capabilities, but I am pretty sure it is overkill for this particular application.
    The previous owner said it had a whine in the tranny and at 1,000,000 miles I plan on having it gone thru anyway, or possibly going thru it myself :biggrin_25524: , also at that point a clutch is almost a given. I want to be able to drive myself from Florida to Washington steady, with total piece of mind.

    I am not sure whether or not I should start a new thread for this , but, does anyone have any experience with IDP's engine kits or Republic Diesel? http://www.republicdiesel.com/
    I like Cat Parts but the local Cat dealer here has no empathy for the little guy and has no problem charging full retail, and then some for everything.
     
  9. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Had never seen a block spray welded before, wouldn't want to know the cost, but cool to watch.
     
  10. black_dog106

    black_dog106 Road Train Member

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    Hello Gulfstream: welcome to the forum...
    It aint just your local Cat dealer... I believe it is universal?
    good luck with your truck project. Please keep us informed.
    :biggrin_25514:
     
  11. Gulfstream

    Gulfstream Bobtail Member

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    I need to post a couple pics of my progress, but the engine transmission are out, I have a question, does cat mark the main caps at the factory? I wouldn't imagine so , but I need confirmation
    Thanks
     
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