Waiting for dispatch..On or Off Duty?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by musicgal, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    I've been studying the HOS regulations all day because I want to do things right.....and I just need some clarification on this.

    My company says that I can go off-duty after 30 minutes of being at the receiver (either to get unloaded or waiting to get a pre-loaded trailer). So I'm off-duty for however long it takes.....now here's my question.

    Do I go On-Duty to send in my "Empty at Final" and then while I wait for dispatch to send me the info for the new load? Sometimes it can take upwards of an hour before I get dispatched.

    My dispatcher seems to think I should only be using up my hours by driving. She got mad at me the other day because I was running out of hours and she said "How can you be out of hours? You've only driven 1700 miles."
     
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  3. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't and the reason why is you will be using up all your time sitting and not driving, now if your payed by the hour thats another story.....
     
  4. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    I haven't been but according to the book "On duty time shall include all time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved of duty by the motor carrier."

    With this CSA2010 coming out, I really do not want to get into any trouble.

    I want to add the the reasons I only got 1700 miles is that the routes I'm sent on take extra time due to stop and go traffic, two-lane local highways, or the local directions are all wrong so I spent extra time getting there due to getting lost (I know...I should not trust them and call myself for directions...which I'm going to start doing) and when I have to find someone at night it is very difficult for me so that takes extra time.
     
  5. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    I understand what your saying and technically you are correct there is nothing wrong with following the rules....I'm gonna back out of this one because I don't want to steer you wrong and get you into some trouble...

    I tend to bend the rules a little..
     
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  6. tankerguy

    tankerguy Bobtail Member

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    On duty , not driving Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. rocknroll nik

    rocknroll nik High Risk Load Member

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    musicgal what you need to do is ask your logs department to send you a quallcom message clarifying how you log it, they should also send it to your dm....yes this is gonna create a problem between you and your dm but it will also CYA.....while I was waiting for dispatch to get back to me I would always go line one and get off line 4 ASAP.....that was when I worked for a quallcomm company ( what I call the major outfits). When I was driving for smaller companies uh I was line one alot
     
  8. swenjj

    swenjj Light Load Member

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    no way do i stay on duty, half the time im relaxing reading a book or playing online, that isnt on duty. even at a shipper you can go in the sleeper and count it there.
     
  9. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Our company we log 15 minutes checking in and then go off duty. Then if you have hours available you log back on duty driving when heading for your next load. I'll bracket the time at the shipper on my log. When I get unloaded, I'm in the sleeper sleeping or watching TV anyways. Alot of times I'll drive all night and run out of hours checking in and log going into my 10 off. Then I'll try to sleep there or mosey outside the gate. This is typical of reefer drivers.
    The rules don't understand real life sometimes and you have to maximize your logbook or you will find yourself getting 1700 miles a week. I'm not staying on the road for no $200 take home.

    Of course there are companies that are strictly by the book and have EOBR's. You have no choice but to comply. But from what I hear you manually enter duty changes while sitting. So you can control that.
     
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  10. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Get your company to relieve you (And get it in writing ie letter, card etc.) and go off duty. That said, there are some places where their entry policy requires you remain "in readiness", so you cannot go off duty (Or go in the sleeper), regardless of what your company says. Consult with your company safety people for guidance (Not just a DM).

    Best regards
     
  11. AXE

    AXE Road Train Member

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    I'm paid for line 3, get nothing for line 4. You can guess how I log it.
     
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