Walmart customer attacks 100 year old greeter for checking her cart.

Discussion in 'Other News' started by IROCUBabe, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. doubledragon5

    doubledragon5 Road Train Member

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    That would be like a bad nightmare "hello welcome to Wal-Mart" "Good buy thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart" Yup a bad nightmare indeed..
     
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  3. IROCUBabe

    IROCUBabe Road Train Member

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    Walmart policies strictly prohibit using force to stop anyone from leaving the store, to do so would result in getting fired. They are to ask, and you CAN decline, both legally and by walmart policy unless they have reason to believe you stole (and declining isn't reason), then holding you is against the law, and attempting to force you to let them is assault. Of course if its security holding you up for suspcision of theft, depending on the states, they tend to have more leeway and its citizen arrest till the cops get there.
     
  4. ghostchild

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    I totally agree with you (that's probablly not a good thing for you)

    I never stop anymore...if they want to see this or that...I tell them 'sorry, can't do it'...

    And tell them that if they have issues which lead them to believe I stole something, than simply detain me...
    (legaly that would be a big mistake on their part)

    Otherwise it's nothing but harracement...there is no grey area when it comes to theft...either you stole or you didn't...

    (there is no 'well maybe you did' or 'well you look like you could have' or 'You look odd to me, so I want to see your reciept'...none of that is legal reason to be stopped and searched by greeters...people stop, only cause they think they have too..and most just don't want to be difficult)(but if it happens over and over again...you finally get sick of it and say 'enough'...)

    And if you did, they wouldn't be asking to see your reciept, they would simply detain you, gather their evidence, and then call the cops...

    (And then before the cop will make an arrest...they have to proove to the cop, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you stole something...
    Either through surveilence tape or eyewitness...and then have to recover product while on you...or witness you leaving store with it...)

    After feeling humiliated a few times after spending good money in there, I vowed to never allow them to trample on my shopping experience anymore...

    I worked a job once were I was privalidged to look through their security tape...and again...there is no 'grey' area when it comes to theft...

    Either they catch you red handed 'probable cause beyond reasonable doubt' or they have to let you go...

    Legally you don't have to show them nothing....not a thing...and if an over zealious greeter (one who say is 35) is dumb enough to touch you...then you will be rich...

    When you spend your hard earned money there, you should be thanked on the way out, not made to feel like a suspect, in plain view of other custimers...
     
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  5. ghostchild

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    Greeters shouldn't be the last line of security anyways...cause their not properly trained in that field...

    And Wal-mart should know better than that...to cheap to hire uniformed security guards...not that they could do much more in said situation...but it might work as a physical or sight deterent to some would be thieves...
     
  6. wannadrive365

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    Wal Mart is an Equal Opportunity Employer. If they have a record of discriminating against someone due to age, it can land them in a heap of trouble either with a lawsuit or even from the government.

    Bottom line, if the person can do the job with or without reasonable accommodation, they cannot by law be discriminated against for age, race, sex, sexual preference, etc...

    However, I wonder why someone who is 100 years old would be spending the time working for wal mart as a greeter. If that is what you get for making it to 100, they can keep longevity. I really hope I never make it to old age, I have had enough problems and I am young. I don't even want to imagine my health when I get old... Makes me tired to think.
     
  7. Skunk_Truck_2590

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    I have no problem with it. If it's an item that can't be put in a bag then I don't blame them for checking it. I alway's have my reciept in hand. They are just doing their job to keep an honest man, woman, child honest. I've seen people peel stickers and barcodes off products leaving them under the buggy during check out and making it out the door without being checked because they left in a big group of people and all couldn't be checked at one time without backing the door for others. There were three cop cars outside our Walmart this evening and had a lady and her kid in the pat down room just inside the outside doors with her in cuff's pulling items from her pockets and her son crying (maybe 7 year's old at most). Like I alway's say, if you don't have the money for it then it's not important enough to have until you do have the funds and it's not worth going to jail over.
     
  8. Skunk_Truck_2590

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    Wow, I can understand I have back problems but if your having a hard time and getting tired just from thinking about your future health issue's then trucking will put you on your death bed in no time at the high rate of BS that will funnel your way. I feel utterly sorry for you.

    As for the 100 year old woman, if she is capable of working and want's to because she feel's the need to contribute her time more to doing something productive than sitting at home in front of a fire nitting and it makes her happy, she's paid her dues to life and society, then by all mean's, let her reap what she sow's.
     
  9. ghostchild

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    To me thier being noisy and rude, and disrupting the shopping experience of custimors who spent good money...

    The greeters are not trained in security or phycology...their rational for asking people for reciepts, has nothing to do with whether said person was likely to have stolen...(and again that's still not a premise to stop someone, a judge would totally laugh at that)...

    More than not, it's based on a personal bias or subconscious dislike, of person they approach...(unless it's done like every 5th person type of pattern)

    I knew a guy once, who did not arouse the suspicion of the greeter, who told me he basically was thanked, and escorted out of store with stolen merchandise...all because to them, the greeters, he could never do such a thing...

    He screwed them, and the store...and bragged to me about it over the phone cause he wanted to 'jam' together...after I heard that story, I never called him again...cause I'm honest...

    If your as loud as me, you have to be honest...I'm only loud cause I always know I'm innocent...

    in the meantime...these deviant greeters want to, or wanted to give me the shake down every time I left there store...even when purchasing pin wheels...

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    They let everyone else walk by and zoomed in on me...and it sucks when ahead of time you think to yourself...

    'Duh, gee I bet they'll stop and search me'....and then right on que, they do...

    I don't like knowing peoples natures that well...When I can predict how they will react, before they actually act....

    Cause then it just confirms your suspicion...

    And on that night I had just had enough and told that person...

    Sir, I need to see your reciept...
    And I respond 'Hll no you can't see my reciept...I paid for this, it's mine, and now it's private property'....and kept on walking...

    They couldn't do a thing...
    and later called back to the store and let them know my history....

    I get spat on enough by society on a daily basis...at least leave me alone and let me shop in peace after I just helped pay your salary be shopping there...

    The only person I will ever stop for is a cop, someone who identifies themselves as a real cop...I will always stop for them...even if I feel they are wrong...

    If a cop asks me to stop...I will stop, dance, strip, and do whatever else they want me to do...for reasons that would take this thread into a different direction...so i will stop at that...
     
  10. Rerun8963

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    you're right Nana.....but i NEVER have anyone even check my receipts either...??? as i walk out the door, SHOULD the alarm go off, THEN i come back so my receipt can be checked, as sometimes the decoding device misses that "magnetic piece" inside the package, then i walk out again....
     
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  11. ghostchild

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    Some people don't have to look for reasons to be offended...

    Some people have mud thrown in their face daily...and have every right to stand up for their dignity...

    No one should lay down their dignity, cause someone else thinks you should, to appease some kind of reverse PC notion....

    I say stand up for your dignity, always and often, regardless of how others may interpit it...

    Obviously their not the ones being spat on, or I garuntee you...their attitude would be different...
     
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