Back to 10 hours of driving ??

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 123456, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. rodknocker

    rodknocker Road Train Member

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    I wish they would cut it down to 8 hours and 16 off duty with a 3 day restart. Maybe that will get these companies to pay their drivers something.
     
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  3. Skunk_Truck_2590

    Skunk_Truck_2590 Road Train Member

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    I would go insane with all that sitting. If I had to lay up on my ### and twiddle my thumb's that much I'd rather be at home to do it. The pay wouldn't change. Adding or reducing hours won't make a difference. Companies will figure out a way to keep driver pay cheap because there are, hands down, plain and simple to many #### driver's and it get's even better for them because they are being churned out of CDL mill's faster than you can say what the hell and pay them a hell of a lot cheaper. That's all these add's out there promising fresh meat everythign under the sun and they don't know any better and think the money they make starting out is #### good and they made a good career choice.
     
  4. Orange Truck

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    All I want is the split sleeper berth back. How is a team truck going to take a two hour nap time or whatever they want to call it.
    How is it one stinkin woman can tell us how to do what we do. Yea that woman from CRASH.
     
  5. Willie Audacious

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    The thing about changing the hours of service is that it seems to all be motivated by this desire to try to make the roads safer and safer. My question is this: At what point are the roads safe enough so that the feds will stop making new rules and we can get on to making a living?
    If you can not make a decent living driving a truck, then why would you want to do it? Where will this all end? Many of us drive a truck primarily because we love the feeling of freedom, we love being able to be handed some work and left the hell alone.
    And here is big brother sticking their noses into our jobs yet even more.
    What happens in a year or two when they realise that "CSA" has failed to make the roads perfectly safe? Let me suggest what will likely happend: The will invent more rules. And when those new rules likewise fail to make the road ways perfectly safe, what then? You guessed it, more new rules. ....and on and on it goes.
    There is a better way I say. It's called freedom. We will never have a perfect world. We need our government to stay out of our lives.
    Safety is not the only thing in life. Wait and see how much people are crying when a gallon of milk is $15.00, loaf of bread $10.00, gallon of gas $12.00.

    I think we need to go on strike but not against the companies we work for but rather against our government. We need to refuse to deliver frieght. Of course this is only a dream
     
  6. Grumman

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    Willie, your drream may not be too far off. Well we probably won't see a true strike, but with CSA, new HOS, EOBRs, and everything else coming how many people will leave the industry? Albeit probably not an enormous amount, but the driver population is aging and most of the new repacements don't last. I bet all this will help to tighten capacity further in the next 2-3 years. Just wonder how high rates will go? I bet we loose 10% of the industry over the next 2 years and we will not be able to grow it back like before.
     
  7. Brickman

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    First things first.


    On this you can count on it!!! Along with mandatory EOBRs every thing coming down the pike is going to make things tougher on the drivers.




    2nd of all the rest of your post only confirms what I've been saying for several years now.
    The long range planning goal is drive every one off of the long haul except for teams. All the other guys (solos) will be driving regional and for the most part unless stuck in weather or equipment break downs you'll be home weekends. Whether its a traditional weekend or a shifted schedule so that your particular company's weekend is a different set of days. The RRs are going to play a bigger and bigger roll in freight distribution and you'll see the solos hauling most of this freight as a regional capacity.

    The reason that solos won't be doing long haul is that with the regs a solo simply will not be able to make a living. Period end of story.
    Also the truck owners will be forced to either put in teams or go regional for the same reason. There will be far too many idle hrs forced on the driver aka the income generator and the truck owner won't be able to hold the business together if the truck is idle the amount of hrs a solo will be required to be off.
     
  8. Brickman

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    I'm one that left. For a variety of reasons but you hit on several.


    I've allowed my HM endorsement to expire, also my physical. I don't need either one right now. And at the rate things are going in 5 yrs when my license is next up for renewal I might let the CDL portion go. By then I'll have been out of the truck long enough that all insurance companies will consider me to be a complete FNG so it really won't benefit me much by then.
    I'm nearing the point of FNG status in the eyes of the insurance companies the way it is. Only a few months short of 2 yrs since I last drove a truck.
     
  9. Willie Audacious

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    Looks to me like this thing is gonna happen and it really doesn't matter a whip what any of us think.
    I don't understand why they will refuse to give us a new physical card if we are over wieght, yet look at the average cop these days. I was driving near my home town a month or so back and saw a huge gathering of bears. It was man hunt for a criminal on the loose. What I could not help but notice is the number of fatsoes in blue uniform, I mean to say it gives new meaning to the old slang term for a cop "pig". I mean to say some of these folks really were oinkers.
    My question is how do they get by? Is what we do any more dangerous than what they do? Does a trucker have to chase a perp down the street and then possibley fight and wrestle the guy? Does a trucker have to chase a bad guy through a bad neighborhood and then mabye climb a fence to continue his hot pursuit?
    I know most of us would like to chase some people at shippers or consignees but I dont' think that level of activity is quite part of the job description.
     
  10. Prairie Boy

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    Work 100, Log 70 Get Paid For 50.
     
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  11. Prairie Boy

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    IMHO I think the carries are pushing for changes and the CSA2010 will get rod of a lot of drivers. When these cvhages occur, you will see the American Trucking Association and large carriers lobby the Governments to allow more weights per axle and allow pulling doubles etc. Up here in Canada, we have many carriers that pull two 53 foot trailers all the time. That's 2 loads of freight that only require one truck and one driver.
     
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