Can I be on line 4 past my 14th hour?

First the officer in this situations should say you did a great job by moving that truck because if you stayed we would of had a chain reaction of trucks blowing up.

Also you can't log the 3 minutes it took you to move that truck. You are allowed to move the truck for 7.5 minutes without logging it. NOw if you are delivering a load and you go from truck stop to customer I would honestly log 15 minutes getting there. YOu can make up the extra minutes later. It's about rounding on the time.
They understand there is but wholes out there that pay music to loud (just like at home) and you want to move your truck to avoid conflict etc. You can move that truck.

I do agree NEVER believe what one officer says, many are wrong and drivers need to be aware of that!

I will get the answer from dot though, eventually

 

Question 2: What conditions must be met for a CMV driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time?

Guidance: 1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying.

Most company's gives you a card (usually on the back of your Qualifications card, Medical, Road test cards, one of the cards that you MUST have on the truck at all times) that allows you to log a certain amount of time for meal breaks, showers (routine stops as DOT calls it). Some lack in telling you about the information on the back assuming you will read it

2. The duration of the driver's relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a CMV will be significantly reduced.

The most make the card a minimum of 30 minutes, this helps you get a break from the road (looking @ the same thing for 11 hours can play tricks on the eyes).

3. If the driver has been relieved from duty, as noted in (1) above, the duration of the relief from duty must have been made known to the driver prior to the driver's departure in written instructions from the employer. There are no record retention requirements for these instructions on board a vehicle or at a motor carrier's principal place of business.

It doesn't have to be in writting, but if it becomes legal issue for some reason the company can say no I did not give him permission (load damage etc).
Most companies give you the permission automatically knowing you will need to eat/shower etc. Wanting you to have good hygeine for customers etc.
But many companies back it up with security on loads policies.

4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated.

This would be if your under a load and the company says sure go ahead and leave the load so you can go to the casino . This situation would be rare, but possible I guess. Hmmm.

If one of the above answers fit your situation you can use it. You don't have to have card as explained in one of the answers.


I don' t know why all of my reply's did not show up red???


You can get this

 

I have never seen it on a log book. That is a good idea though .

 

Not trying to insult here but I am not sure what you are stating here?
I am VERY wore out so it could be me

If it is why would you need to log line 1 for, this is because technically while under a load you are always responsible for that load.

THe company can give you permission to take a minimum of 30 minutes off duty (as to logging it on-duty not driving; saving on the 70 hour rule @ least here) during your 14 hour period (or any time during the day).
If the company does not say yes you can leave that truck to eat, the time should be logged on line 4. That would suck for most drivers so why would the company not pre-print cards to cover their drivers ##*.