INS regs or hiring

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by texasholdemtim, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. texasholdemtim

    texasholdemtim Bobtail Member

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    Recently, trying to get back into trucking, after a 3 yr break.
    and finding silly requirements, like must have ,yr recent in last yrs, or 6 Mons in the last yrs ,or even recent exp,. What does this mean my 10 or plus years experience is no good and I have forgotten how to drive.
    they say it is an INS reg , But I doubt that, ins company's insure , they don't make hiring rules, Do They ? confused How can the ins company tell me who can drive my truck and who can not, as long as license is valid, who cares, thats my decision as a truck owner, at least i would think. these companies are now so weak that they let the ins companies write their hiring standards for them,.
     
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  3. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    it's just to make sure you CAN drive a truck. you are NOT the only person to go through such a bunch of non-sense. the insurance companies CAN DICTATE to the trucking companies as who to hire. the insurance premiums can take a big chunk of change out of any trucking operation. i do not like this either, but what can we do...?? first (i guess) is to NEVER take time off from driving....??? and if one does take time off....?? let it be LESS than 1 month...?????

    even "self insured" trucking companies will follow this ruling some what closely. i find it difficult to believe too that a person with years of experience "forgot" anything, other than maybe shifting (double clutching). but once behind the wheel again, it all comes back to everyone. just like "riding a bike" per se........
     
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  4. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    Think about this..... if you were the one putting up the "insurance" money behind a trucking co would you take a chance on anything that walked in with a new CDL and little or no experience?

    Both insurance and trucking companies are money-making businesses. They are not there to stroke your ego nor to provide what you think are your "rights". That's your Mommy's job, not theirs. Deal with life or go home and live in Mom's basement.

    Yeah, I remember how hard it was starting out/over. But life is neither fair nor easy. Thousands of us have done it/will do it every day. Trying to find someone to blame does nothing but make you sound like a whiney child.
     
  5. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    before i left for work this morning, i made my comment above. while at work, and just before i left for the day, i asked the other instructor AND our supervisor about this issue. we are ALL in agreement. its to make sure a driver CAN drive a rig after being "absent" from the industry for a while....now what is "a while".....??? we all figured at least 1 year out of the industry....

    but some trucking companies say it's 6 months......

    i DO KNOW for a fact that the company Rohel (sp?), will NOT TAKE a student, if that student went 90 days with out driving (once he/she graduated), and Rohel WILL MAKE YOU go back to school, NOT FOR a refresher mind you, but the ENTIRE course all over again.,....!!!

    so yeah, it DOES SUCK, BIG TIME, but no one can fight it. the only thing someone can do is, hope that a trucking company will take a chance on you IF you have been out of the business X number of months/years...


    nobody likes to hear this but, it's the way IT IS......
     
  6. Allow Me.

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    A lot of companies won't accept local driving as "experience" either. But, they'll hire a newbie with 3 weeks school and "train" him for 2 weeks, then cut him loose with expensive equipment and payloads. Makes you wonder, right?
     
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  7. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    after the accident, the tow bills are cheaper locally than OTR.......(my guess).....

    take that guy in the thread where he bought a used truck AS-IS and drove it from texas to arkasas..??? 360 miles (or so), check engine lite on, temp gauge going high...now a cracked block....??

    i kinda think that'll be one heck of a tow bill (on him) back to texas....IF he takes the truck back there...??

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...-truck-returning-back-dealer.html#post1656873
     
  8. texasholdemtim

    texasholdemtim Bobtail Member

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    not being a whiner just say I do not beleive companies that tell me its an Ins reg , Ins companies insure trucks they do not make rule of hire,most of these companies want to send you back to school and out with a trainer , see BIG dollar signs ,6,000 if you dont stay a yr 2000 if you do, and then to be able to run freight as a team truck and pay you student wages, COME on guys think about it a student with 6mons or a drive with 11 yrs uhm, uhm. even if the experienced driver has had two yrs off he has forgotten more then the student even has learned.
     
  9. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    That one never made much sense to me. Rolling down the interstate is not that big of a deal compared to city driving and backing, which the local drivers have LOTS of practice with!

    As far as the insurance companies 'making the hiring policies' the companies follow the insurance company's set policy to keep their insurance rates at a certain level. Does telling someone with 11 years experience, or even two years experience that has been out of the seat for a year or so they have to go back to school and start over seem fair? Not really. My dad has 30+ years under his belt and was told the same thing because he's been out of the seat for 5 years. Figure that one out!

    But, the insurance company requires the meeting of certain requirements to maintain certain rates, and the company chooses which rates they want to pay, so they meet the requirements for that rate.
     
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  10. Rhinestone Eyes

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    I've been driving, and teaching for a while - will be starting on my third CDL in June. Company recruited me to teach after the 90 day probationary period.
    Sent to a beginner training class.. and waiting. The 3 days training and to work
    are adding up..gonna be a month soon. From what I am reading here, it looks like you're saying you get kicked back to beginner. ####! You sure?
     
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