Hi all, I'm about to get a new to me Silverado 2500 HD. My family runs a nice little heavy haul escort company here in the North east so this is going to be my personal/work vehicle now. We have always used the Cobra 29 LTD Classics, I would like to get something like http://www.cbcity.com/item/Cobra-29-LX-LE-1512 unless someone has a better suggestion. The radio I buy now will most likely eventually go on with me to my big rig when I decide to move on from this.
I've noticed that with most of our setups they only reach out maybe a mile. I think we use mostly Wilson antennas. I'm looking to be able to really reach out so I'm looking for any suggestions. I would really like to do the dual antennas for functionality and the obvious looks of it but from what I've gathered this isn't possible on pickup trucks??
Also, I remember reading something about a simple mod most CB shops are able to do to allow most setups to reach out to 4 miles? I'm open to any suggestions for this setup, I'm a beginner to it all and enjoy learning these kinds of things.
Thanks a lot,
-Rob
Four wheeler/escort vehicle CB questions.
Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by rob11XX, Dec 19, 2010.
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http://www.sparkyscbshack.com/catalog/item/6231095/8265373.htm look mat price difference .add a wilson 100 mag mount and a good mic you will be good to go
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Rob. it is very much possible to be able to communicate beyond a mile as you mentioned. The big thing is to run a good antenna that is tuned properly. The antenna is the heart and soul of any radio and will make or break the radio.
You didn't say what Wilson antenna you're running. The small base loaded Lil Wils are ok but base loaded antennas aren't the best plus the whip is too short. Even if tuned to a low SWR, you're looking at getting out a few miles.
Most of the antennas used by truck drivers are really too short for CB. They can be made to work but again they're just too short. Plus when you co-phase them it makes them harder to tune.
The best antenna i have ever ran across is a 108 inch whip from MFJ. Yes it's no kidding a 9 ft tall whip. Most people think "it's too tall" but not IMO, plus that's how tall a CB antenna really is supposed to be to be the most effective.
Now, if you put that 9 ft whip on your truck and tune it to be less than 1.5:1 on all channels, I guarantee you that you will be able to talk past a mile, and that's without heat, and that's also not during skip. I know. I've done it before. I personally talked to a truck driver at 9 miles while I was sitting in a truck stop and the other time I was at 14 miles and was barely able to talk to another truck driver. I had the 108 mounted dead center of the bulkhead in my pickup. And both times I was running an old Taiwan Cobra 148 that was only putting out 4 watts and no i wasn't running heat either.
And here's something else to keep in mind....the other party has to have good equipment too. If you have a good antenna tuned right and they have a little tiny antenna or an improperly tuned antenna, they may or may not be able to hear you.
There are other dictating factors such as if there's any type of electrical noise, what type of terrain you are in, if skip is rolling, etc.
Having the right antenna will determine how well your radio can hear. Having the right antenna plus having it tuned right will determine how far out you can talk. If you've ever wondered why base stations can talk a ways, this is why.
HTHrob11XX Thanks this. -
Hey thanks for the savings there geartow. I bought a Cobra HG M84 mic a few weeks ago, I like the ergonomics of it and so far everyone has said I sound good.
Turbo-T, as cool as it would be to have a 9' whip, I wouldn't be able to go through drive throughs and stuff. My grandpas car has the Wilson 1000, Big Willy or whatever they are called, Mom has a little wil and says she can receive really far but can't talk the same distance. Hers was peaked and tuned by a shop somewhere.
Would it be smart to just go with the Wilson 5000 or will the 1000 do? Even in my short years, I've learned just to buy the best and be happy with it the first time instead of buying multiple times. Up here in the NE it's mostly hilly areas so you can't reach out too far but I will be going out to Utah and that area of the country after new years, who knows where I will end up after that.
Thanks,
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http://www.kenwood.ca/Communications/Land_Mobile_Radio/NEXEDGE/NX-700-800
They can also be used to communicate with Utilities companies that for instants might be lifting power lines to allow the load to get thru etc. -
sorry i ment to say wilson 1000
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because here in the states you have to be licensed to use those. VHF radios
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If i ran an escort service i would do just that get a business band license put mobiles in all my cars and have HT's for my clients and problems solved. With the mobile repeaters in the cars you would have a huge range and no interference.
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I had a 108 and I went thru drive thrus all the time. Yes the antenna will hit the canopy but rest assured it won't cause any damage.
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Is this type of radio what most Police are using these days, it seems most of them never have CBs anymore and in NY escorts are supposed to have a hand held CB for a police escort to use.
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