how many of you smoke?

I used Chantix to get off it, but I was already committed to quitting, and only used the drug to get me over the hump. I used Chantix (Champix in Canada) for 2 weeks, and then kicked it, as I didn't want to risk becoming dependent on it.

I'm not sure of the regs in Canada now, but being on Chantix was no bar to driving a truck when I used it. Anyway, if you are able to quit, what's a couple of weeks pay, given the amount you will save, and the extra years you will likely live?

 

I'm at 22 hours. I smoked my last one watching the ball drop. I done suprisingly good, but I know it will change. I picked up my empty pack a couple times and looked in it and said to myself noooooo! I refused to go to the store today.

I tried that Chantix about the time my thyroid quit working. Hypothyroidism untreated alone makes you fatigued and depressed. Mixed with Chantix made things 10X worse. Talk about having wild dreams too. I was dreaming about riding a horse with no head and crazy stuff. I quit the Chantix quick.

I quit drinking cold turkey. I think I have the willpower to quit smoking the same way. A 32 year habit is going to be tough to break.

 

All I asked was for proof. I wasn't the one claiming something with nothing credible to back it with. Excuse me. I have done research for ailments related to smoking and yes, I agree that smoking can be a contributing factor, but not the only factor, especially when it comes to diabetes. Smoking can exacerbate an ailment, but no medical professional can say with a straight face that smoking is the sole reason for contracting anything. For them to say that one who smokes is three times as likely to contract diabetes as a non-smoker is disingenuous. This is total BS. There is no clinical proof to make this claim.

Yes, I meant it runs in the family when one is predisposed to it. I don't have it because I take care of myself. I don't overeat, I exercise, I eat healthy and I maintain my weight despite having hypothroidism, which also runs in our family and do take medication for it.

Predisposition, lifestyle, excessive consumption of alcohol and obesity are the major contributors of diabetes. She, like everyone else in the family had blood panels done periodically (usually once a year) and she wasn't diagnosed with diabetes until after she gained a generous amount of weight, she didn't have it for years before she was diagnosed. What I do now, just to be safe, is use my dad's glucose tester once in awhile to be sure. I don't want to get diabetes. My father was diagnosed when he was 30 and controlled his diabetes with his diet and exercise, and even up til now has maintained his weight. He didn't go on insulin until he was 70.

Did I tell my sister what? That her inactivity, consumption of alcohol and poor eating habits were going to catch up to her someday? Yeah. Did it do any good to tell her? No. Does it do any good to tell her she shouldn't be smoking because she has asthma? No. I can't force her to take care of herself. She also has mental issues and is taking medication for them, so I have to tread carefully not to set her off. She can be self-destructive, just like so many others who choose not take normal precautions to ensure they live healthy lives.

It was his time to go. And no matter what one does, they can't stop what is inevitable that we will all die someday. No one knows when or how, just that it will happen. Yes, we can do all we can to make sure we live quality lives while we're here on earth, but everyone is going to die and not everyone will choose to live quality lives.

 

The last diabetes group meeting I was at 11 of the people diagnosed as diabetic or pre diabetic were smokers. I suppose in your delussional world that is BS as well. Sorry to offend you but I give more credence to medical professionals than I do to you.

 

You can go to a tobacco shop and get additive free tobacco. The brand is Fresh Choice for cigarette tobacco and the pipe tobacco is called PIIYPASI (put it in your pipe and smoke it). I've been smoking additive free tobacco for three years now. I roll my own. The tubes cost between $3 to $5 for 250. I buy them at Sam's Club. I get four boxes (each box is 250 tubes) for under $10.00. I use the mild pipe tobacco because you can buy a 1lb bag for about $26.00, because they didn't put the same kind of tax on the pipe tobacco as the cigarette tobacco. The one pound bad of cigarette tobacco I bought before they added that federal tax was $25, after the tax the same tobacco was $58 a bag. And one 1lb bag=approx. two and a half cartons. Which breaks down to less than $15.00 per carton for the pipe tobacco. But hey, it's additive free tobacco. Yeah, it is a bit of a pain to make them until you get the hang of it, but it only takes about five minutes to make a pack if you buy the right kind of cigarette machine. Mine cost about $60.00, but it was well worth it. It's made extremely well, most of the parts are metal, not plastic like the cheap models, so the machine, barring any abuse, will last you for a very long time.

You can check around for the additive free Fresh Choice cigarettes, you might have to buy them online to find them in a carton ready to smoke, but I'm told you can buy them this way. But they won't be any cheaper than say Marlboros, but they will be additive free. When I bum a cigarette off my husband, he smokes Marlboros, I can taste the crap in his cigarettes.

 

Different strokes for different folks. How many of those at the meeting were overweight? Drinkers? Had poor diets? Do you even know their medical history/background? Or are you basing your "findings" only on the fact that you know they smoke? How many attended this meeting? 11 out of how many?

I give credit to the medical profession what it's due and the more I read, the more skeptical I become. How many times has the medical profession said eggs were bad, don't have more than one or two a week and then recanted on it? I used to eat at least one or two eggs a day and was never more healthy in my life. Did you know eggs are a perfect food? How many times did they say kids don't need to drink milk and later recanted? How many times did they say that a low/no fat diet was better for you and then later recanted? A person from the medical profession instructed my medical terminology class at the college, she said that a high percentage of women who were on low/no fat diets had major problems with their gallbladders......go figure?

If you want to accept everything the medical profession throws at you, be my guest, but it's just not nice to call me delusional because I happen to disagree with you. Me? I live by what the Bible says, in all things you do, do in moderation. No truer words were spoken when it comes to living a quality life.

 

Sorry to offend you? After saying "in your delusional world"?

I have seen this tactic before...start throwing personal shots (although minor) when you can't get another to agree with your concept.

Medical Journals and Research Institutes contradict not only opposing thoughts within their own publications but opposing thoughts from different publications. I could go down to the Medical Library, sit right down at a table of 12 Doctors and nurses and get two or three different opposing positions on most any subject. and each opinion could be backed up by specific articles and findings.

These research foundations don't do research for no cost...each research topic is paid for and the group/individual has a specific end they desire for the research to find in conclusion. Large blocks of medical/clinical study is paid for by different food producers and drug companies. Each group has their own "gimmick" and ways of twisting facts and findings to their purpose.

You are claiming that 11 people in "your group" were smokers...bet I could go to the same city and find 20 diabetics who have never smoked. And this search wouldn't take me 3 hours, just standing on a street corner downtown with a sign asking my question. No great study required...and I could control the results by not recognizing the smokers that answer the question. do you see how studies/polls are skewed to alter the actual numbers in the "host" favor or line of thought?!

You can't really believe that your group is equal to a true percentage of a state or national survey...let alone a multinational survey! If you choose to believe and put complete credence in any publication or statement from a specific "anti-group" you go ahead, be my guest...but if you were to do some research of your own, leaving your obvious bias against smoking completely out of the parameters of the research...you will find that I am speaking fact in my premise. If you can't leave any and all bias out of the question, your question is already targeting a specific end.

 

How about it?

Funny, your findings conflict with Roadmedic's:

Hmm, who to believe? Why is it that no study can conclusively come to the same findings? Could it be the "studies" are skewed? Unless you have a pristine environment you can't come to any conclusive findings. Yes, smokers do know that smoking is not necessarily healthy for us. How do we know? Because we keep getting this crap crammed down our throats. You want to know one way to make the life of a smoker more healthy? Leave us alone.

 

Apparently you have no interest in doing nothing but going around in circles and argueing. I have better things to do. You are on my ignore list so spout off in a vacuum. Go roll another one, you'll be OK.