http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110105/10105_400_closure/20110105/?hub=CP24Home
http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2916894
I back tracked, and if my log book was right I was about there 10 minutes before this guy roll over... With my A train Wiggle Wagon
I remember so well because I was already driving 60km/h and I still wiggled at around that spot, that was scary, if I was pulling empties I am sure I would've flip over just like him...
Still a newbie and having a little trouble judging my speed according to road conditions. Any good advice?
Like, how do I know I can't even drive 60km/h over that part of 3 lane highway?
Went to Barrie and then came back that night, on my way back there was slow plow and salt trucks so the road was a little better. Although still have to take the alternate because the highway was closed...Quite an unforgetable night for me...
It's not when I was actually driving, but when I read the news that's unforgetable...
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How to judge your speed?
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by defencerulez, Jan 6, 2011.
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Like, how do I know I can't even drive 60km/h over that part of 3 lane highway? you can drive the SPEED you are safe at , in ONTARIO it notes the MAX speed and not the MIN speed , if you have to do 30 KPH to keep it safe do so , throw on the HAZARDS and proceed with CAUTION. Traffic coming up from behind will see you and with the FLASHERS on realize ( at LEAST should ) you at a reduced rate of speed.
Do not pay attention to the 140KPH BBRiggers who usually end up in the ditch.
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Actually its not the big riggers in the ditch its usually the cautious safe driver in the ditch. The big rigger put them there by passing UNsafely to fast too close causing whiteout or loosing control scaring safe driver then tries to protect themselves sudden change in movement causes loss of control. In fact you'll find the cause of most semis ending up in the ditch will also be from over cautious drivers following to closely supper truckers and bald tired over aggressive 4 wheelers. Also lack of experience and doh heads driving on a highway at 60kph if you have to drive at speeds less than 40percent of Max its time to park. You'll always have people that drive to fast and too slow. To many people Driving at greater speed differences always lead to collisions. You know when you drive through a city packed with vehicles. Traffic gets going then slams on brakes. That's caused by the ####### 2kms up that sped by in hammer lane then cut everyone off to force there way on the off ramp.
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You are better to be going too slow tan too fast. It is not about how fast you can go forward, but traveling at a speed that makes maneuvering and stopping safe.
How the heck did that truck end up fishtailing on the 400? There is nowhere on there that has sharp enough turns to cause that. Did he swerve to avoid something? Did he drift into the other lane and jerk the wheel back? Other than that long grade at Innisfil Beach road that is a pretty easy road to navigate. -
That night, when everybody on a 3 lane highway was driving 60 or 70 km/h just like me, and that was the flow of the traffic, we had a big problem. All the lanes were covered with ice or snow and the lane markings on the road were covered... The traffic pretty much turn the highway into a 2 lane highway, and if it wasn't for that (I have more space on both sides) and there were a cars beside me, my trailers could've hit somebody cuz it spun out a bit and wiggle on me, the first time in my AZ driving career that my trailer lost control although I was able to correct it within a few seconds...
It scares me because I drive the A train double wiggle wagon all the time... Although Barrie is not somewhere I often go to, and it's a known trouble spots for having bad weather in the winter, but still... Living in Canada I can encounter situation like this all the time... -
How the hack did that truck end up fishtailing? I fish tailed (wiggled) for no apprent reason exactly near that area as well, and yes, the road was straight I am pretty sure!
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I heard he was attempting to pass someone
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Another good reason to reduce your speed and not make unnecessary steering movements when you hit an icy stretch of road... also gotta watch those cambered or high-crowned roads when they're all iced up, as it is easier to break free and start sliding every which way. The worst ice I ever drove through, I had to straddle the zipper, crawling along at 3-5 m.p.h., with big trucks littering the ditches to either side... looked like a combat zone. If a driver stopped in either lane, he would slowly start sliding SIDEWAYS toward that slushy cr@p on the shoulder... that's how bad the ice was, and that was AFTER the salt shakers had been down that stretch of road. My friend "The Railsplitter" has a few photos of that same ice storm posted somewhere on this site.
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the HWY 400 is not a high crowned road , but those can be a pain , years back on an old side road with a high crown in an ICE STORM was chaining up and my chains kept sliding away
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Quite an unforgetable night for me...
It's not when I was actually driving, but when I read the news that's unforgetable...