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Question regarding CSA 2010 and moving violations

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by kane0187, Feb 3, 2011.

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  1. Feb 3, 2011 #1
    kane0187

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    I am doing some research into the new CSA 2010 regulations and had a question to pose to you professional drivers out there.

    Now I have read that the new requirement titled "Unsafe Driving" only records those violations uncovered in "Roadside Inspections".

    Are these roadside inspections defined as any time an officer pulls you over), or can you be pulled over and have it not count as a "Roadside Inspection" (i.e. If you are speeding or driving recklessly).

    I am working trying to track violations with the new CSA system to help truck driving companies and am just wondering if certain "moving violations" that a normal car driver would get would not show up on these Roadside Inspections for truck drivers.

    Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise!
     
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  3. Feb 3, 2011 #2
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  4. Feb 3, 2011 #3
    kane0187

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    Thanks for the link, but my question is a little more specific and I don't think it gets addressed there.

    Basically there is a difference between where violations on commercial truck drivers are stored (MCMIS which is managed by CSA) and regular drivers (DoT's on their MVR's).

    Just trying to figure out if all violations that would be on an MVR get reported on the MCMIS system via a Roadside Inspection or other kind of roadside stop.
     
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  5. Feb 3, 2011 #4
    Meltom

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    I'm not sure I follow you but I got this from the just facts section of the link above


    Tickets or warnings that CMV drivers receive while operating their personal vehicles do not count in the SMS.
     
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  7. Feb 4, 2011 #5
    paul 1052

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    If you get a traffic ticket and a Level 1 2 or 3 inspection with the violation listed on the inspection, it will reflect on your CSA score.

    If you get a traffic ticket in your car or truck w/o an inspection...no CSA points at all.
     
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  8. Feb 4, 2011 #6
    kane0187

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    Exactly the answer I was looking for to my admittedly convoluted and probably confusing question. Thanks a bunch!
     
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    otherhalftw

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    The inspection form must be completed and signed by the driver receiving the inspection for anything to go into the CSA data files. CSA is not about "moving violations", it is aimed at safety and compliance with safety regulations.

    The points on a moving violation are with DMV not CSA....speeding, unsafe lane change, and the like....tires below tread depth allowed, lights inoperative, log book not up to date, and mechanical issues with the truck and or trailer are CSA points.
     
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  10. Feb 4, 2011 #8
    Meltom

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    Unsafe Driving
    Parts 392 & 397

    Dangerous or careless operation of commercial motor vehicles.

    Driver traffic violations and convictions for speeding, reckless driving, improper lane change, inattention, and other unsafe driving behavior
     
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    otherhalftw

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    If you are referring to my post...please note those (that you posted) are FMCSA Regulations...not CSA point "points"...only violations of safety noted on the inspection (vehicle inspection criteria) and log/HOS are CSA issues. Even the BS up in MI about the "tired drivers" is not part of the CSA issues.
     
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