A Couple of Questions

No, I can drive 3 hours to a shipper, 15 min to check in and then spend 2 hours off duty while being loaded. Then drive for 8 hours, spend 8 hours in the sleeper. Now my new 14 starts at the end of the 2 hour break so I can drive 3 more hours before taking another 2 hour break. What I'm saying is the 8 does not have to be taken before the 2 as you stated. Once your 11 has been driven or your 14 has expired without completing one of the 2 breaks you need 10.

 

Book says 15 minute minimum, any more then that and your wasteing hours. I like to run 4000+ miles a week, but you go ahead and do what you want.




American Trucker

 

maybe this will help a little.

 

No because you already used up your 11 hours of driving for the 14 hour clock. You have to have driving time left to make the split work.

 

I say if ur in doubt of how to do the split or how it all works ( the HOS that is) just download DDL and play with it.

I used the 8/2 2/8 split a lot and never had a problem.

I always put a little dot on the top of the 4line graph as to where the the 14 hour ran out if not useing the split. and when useing the split a dot where the next offduty/ sleeper was needed. Always counting the hours before the split and taking it away from after the split as to where the next offduty/ sleeper was needed to get hours back to drive. I was OTR mainly 600-1400 mine trips so it didnt mater how we ran either the full 11 and 10 or spliting but with traffic spliting helped in rush hour in the evening.


its a bit of a pain to get used to but once you know how to do it , it can work in you favor. drive 6 take 2 drive 5 take 8 drive 6 take 2 drive 5 take 8 and so on, once you start the split you must keep doing the split until you do the full 10 off then you can go back to 11/10. But I could be wrong Ive been off the road for 8 months taking care of stuff around the new house.

It works the same way if you drive your 11 take 10 the big diff is timing it and avoiding traffic and if you use you 8/2 sleeper or off duty for waiting on load/unload.

 

It's second nature after awhile. If you get the rotation right you can sometimes get to a destination more quickly than if you're just running your hours out and taking a 10-hour break.

OTOH... with elogs, "Ms Elogs" tells me an hour before I'm out that its time to find a place to stop.

 

What Book, or statute are you refering too? I find no specific time requirements for pre or post trip inspections

 

The "book" only says that you must assure yourself that the equipment is safe to operate. There is no requirement to perform a pretrip inspection - however the statements that point to assuring that the equipment is safe to operate imply this. There is no time requirement associated with it. Merely flagging a "pretrip" is enough according to the regulations - and this is not even required.

The only required inspection is the post trip inspection - again, there is no stated length time requirement in the "book" for this inspection, and flagging it is enough.

This being said, your employer may require a specific length of time to be logged for one or both of these tasks.

 

Section 396.11 only requires a written report identifying any deficiencies found by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in it's mechanical breakdown. If none are found the report shall indicate that. Where is the requirement to do an inspection. Please do not point to section 396.15 (b), it only applies to driveaway-towaway operations.