Protect your CDL

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Animangus, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. Animangus

    Animangus Bobtail Member

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    Way back in truck school one of our instructors used to say, "protect your CDL". Everyone said yea, sure, whatever.... But it wasn't until later I began to understand what he was really talking about.

    Insurance costs are skyrocketing. Even self-insured trucking companies are paying larger settlements and losing bigger court cases as the industry's experience level declines with increasing turnover. Their recourse is more aggressive discrimination against risky drivers - those with problem driving records. Drivers with better-than-average driving records (fewer moving violations) get the better jobs.

    Wal-Mart, for example, still offers one of the best wage/benefit packages in the industry. And they won't even look at you if you're driving record isn't way above average. This is typical with most "second-tier" carriers that pay better than average. And of course, a clean CDL record is also a good determiner of other professional characteristics.

    So far, this seems like obviously good advice, and you've heard it before. But Newbies, here's what you probably haven't heard:
    Striving for "perfect" isn't stressed with newbie companies like Swift, Werner and Schneider (etc). They're basically happy if you only get a moving violation every year or so, and will suggest that's fine with a wink and a nod and "nobody's perfect" or a "siht happens" attitude. And here's why:

    1. They've got an endless supply of cheap trainees, and if you get too many tickets to remain employable, replacing you with another newbie's virgin CDL is not a problem -- it's their specialty. Speeding tickets go on your record, not theirs. If you sacrifice your record a bit to make on-time deliver, at least the freight got there as soon as possible.

    2. As long as you're carrying one or two speeding tickets on your last five years, there's less chance you'll be able to quit them for a better job. Indeed - there are many drivers with Werner, Swift (etc) who wouldn't even qualify for re-employment if they quit, let alone get a job with Wal-Mart or Crete or Interstate. They are trapped in their current job due to their poor driving record -- and have less recourse for the way they are treated, the loads they're assigned, etc. It's a horrible position for someone who has good reason to quit, but can't get another company to even look at them due to their driving record.

    And the sad part is -- most of the chances you take by speeding, tailgating and pushing traffic, weaving in and out or not following posted lane restrictions (etc) only have a small effect on service anyway. Running 4mph over the speed limit for four hours only moves you 16 minutes closer to your destination. If 16 minutes is really that important, you may be able to extract it from time spent at a sit-down meal, or bs'ing with another driver in the parking lot...etc.

    If you can't make the delivery on-time, document your progress and keep dispatch informed of your updated eta. If you've done everything legally possible to arrive on-time and still miss the appointment, so be it. Breaking the law is not worth the risk it poses to your future job choices (and a host of other potential problems.)

    And lastly, there's little paycheck advantage by squeezing a few more miles into your line-3 time, when you end-up paying a huge fine, lose better job opportunities, or possibly lose your legal right to drive at all.

    So when your first newbie company explains how important your driving record is, but also suggests one or two tickets isn't a problem.... everybody does it.... it comes with the territory... and that's just the way trucking is....
    Don't buy it.

    You've got a virgin CDL. Keep it clean. Leave room for an unintentional mistake. Never voluntarily drive a speed that makes you fair game for a ticket, or knowingly break other laws that could damage your future job options for years to come. One unintended violation on top of a stupid decision can cost you the opportunity to make $20,000 more a year in a better job down the road.

    In short: "Everybody" does not get tickets, and they are a big deal.

    Protect your CDL.
     
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  3. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Thank you for posting exactly what I am ALWAYS telling drivers! It is your butt on the line, NOT the company's!

    My hubby didn't follow this advice, and alot of doors have closed to him. Luckily the company he is with now is WONDERFUL! But I don't know how we got this lucky, or how long it will last. Just 2 points on his record could knock us out of the industry, and the insecurity of it is a killer!

    Drivers, if you don't feel like considering what it could do to you, thin about the stress it could cause your family!

    Bonnie
     
  4. deepstroke

    deepstroke Bobtail Member

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    Any recommendations on repairing a damaged CDL? Got dinged with a few minor incidents that fell real close together, and was terminated. Now nobody wants to talk to me. Hate the idea of having to go to JBHunt long enough for the junk to drop off, but its looking more and more like I may have to.

    You are so right about 'Protecting your CDL'! My advice learned the hard way -- once you sit down in the driver's seat, it is ALL business. You cannot let yourself be distracted by anything at anytime. Be totally aware of your surroundings and what potential hazards are around you. And yes, that truck parked next to you in the truck stop is a hazard. A moment's distraction can lead to minor damage but a disaster on your livelihood.
     
  5. class441

    class441 Light Load Member

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    If JB Hunt will take you cool, we'll be trapped there together lol. I have "preventable incidents" for "passing when I should've waited" and for some guy trying to pass me on the right as I took a junction with no lane change but he thought he was slick and could beat me in essentially the same lane I was already in. When someone calls that number, no matter what, you had a preventable incident. And at B service when you have a scrape from driving under a tree or I hear even driving over a tree or over some tracks too fast...anything any scratch is a preventable incident. So protect your CDL and pray I can go somewhere else with my current record. Or join me at being trapped with Johnnie Bryan. Swift used to fix things for me no questions asked, antennaes taken out by trees, whatever. I got towed out of a ditch once and no incident, so that "stuff happens" attitude is a lot nicer to your CDL than you think.
     
  6. Rocket

    Rocket Guest

    Don't these two kinda contradict each other?
     
  7. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The whole industry is full of contadictions. Haven't you learned that yet?

    Bonnie
     
  8. Animangus

    Animangus Bobtail Member

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    1) If you get too many tickets for even them to keep you on, they can easily replace you.
    2) 1 or 2 tickets will keep you from being picked up by someone else, thus keeping you stuck with them.
     
  9. Tip

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    Dont' forget DACcidents, those little nit-picky incidents a company will charge you with so you can't quit 'em and move on to greener pastures. These are things that are barely above "farting in a terminal". At some outfits, I'm sure even farting in a terminal will get you a DACmark. This is especially true for those guys they get their hooks in who are always on-time with deliveries, have spotless driving records, and have had maybe one previous employer the past five years.

    And yes, there are a lot of contradictions in trucking, or so it seems. A company will try to "keep you around" through dirty trickery, while it will also suspend you for being short two bags of dixie cups on a load having over 17,000. They'll also do anything to keep those with pristine work histories and driving records no matter what, even though replacing them with newbies is in their interest.

    The "contradictions" in trucking aren't really contradictions at all. We just think they are in our limited knowlege. We have yet to learn all the facts behind the odd behavior of the creature known as the American trucking company. While we try to figure out what is going on, we'll grope around in the dark and try to guess what those facts are. No insider is ever going to give us the scoop on how trucking companies work. If we knew, we could build a case out of that info and maybe even turn it into a political issue. No, we aren't going to be allowed to empower ourselves. We have to use common sense and wisdom to walk the tightrope of circumstantial evidence and propaganda in trucking if we are to make the best decisions we can make. We should use our common sense and wisdom to the hilt, as they are all we got.
     
  10. leannamarie

    leannamarie "California Girl"

    A few weeks ago when my boyfriend called and was really down and frustrated, I told him to protect his CDL. He was frustrated that the dispatchers weren't understanding that he was out of hours, that they wanted him to keep going, yet there was an entire department dedicated to checking his logs, ready to fire him if he went over. He wanted to know how he could possibly do his job when he had these competing messages from the company. I outlined his choices (granted, worst case scenarios)--1. Run over his hours, make the dispatcher happy, get a ticket, pay a fine, get fired by the company for going over hours. 2. Stop driving, annoy the dispatcher, possibly get fired for not working hard enough. Which way enables you to get another job? Which way leaves your CDL clean? I told him that ultimately, he needs to watch out for himself because no matter how good the company is, he is just a number. No one will ever look out for him the way that he can. I could hear the light bulb go on, and he said that suddenly it was clear. He needed to do what was in his best interest, not the companies. He said that I really made him understand the statement, "protect your CDL"
     
  11. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Tickets are not the only issue you have to protect your CDL's from.

    While DACcidents were mentioned.....other incidents can occur.

    False DAC reports are getting more and more common among companies now as they compete to keep drivers (even if they have to trap them). I would advise every driver to check their DAC for erroneous entries. Especially if you have changed jobs more than 3 times over the past 3 years.

    I have one entry...and I'm d@#$ proud of it. "Driver quit without notice". I'd quit the lame ### company again...if I had a chance LOL.
     
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