TRUCKERS: Should RXR (o)=(o) flash SIX seconds before gates begin to descend?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Robert Gift, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. Robert Gift

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    Some gates, I am told, begin to descend 3 seconds after the
    (o)=(o) begin to flash.
    Is that enough time to get a trailer clear?
    Or should they start decent after a 6-second interval?
    Thank you.
     
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  3. Smaggs

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    If you see flashing or know a train is coming, I would wait. It takes at least 10-15 seconds to get a rig safely across the tracks from a stop.

    It's advised to start and get through the crossing without shifting. That's what I'm told in class.

    Why are you trying to beat a train with an 18 wheeler anyway?
     
  4. Robert Gift

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    I'm not qualified to drive 18-wheelers.
    But have seen videos of their trailers getting hit by descendingates.

    In many places, one cannot see down the track.
    So as they approach the crossing, the lights begin to flash too late for them to stop, and before they get across, the gate has hit the trailer.

    Yes, they don't want any vehicles shifting over a crossing and risking a mistake resulting in transmission out of gear or shifting into a wrongear and stalling the vehicle on the track.
     
  5. SHO-TYME

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    Once the lights start to flash, you are to stop, if you continue and anything happens, you're at fault.
     
  6. Jeepintrucker

    Jeepintrucker Light Load Member

    I bet that driver HAD to change his underwear!
     
  7. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    The other week I was already past the gate for a set of double tracks when I heard them start to DING, and I watched in the mirrors as the arm came down and just missed my trailer. I don't know what the spec is, but that was way too close.
     
  8. CondoCruiser

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    1 track = look both ways
    1 light= stop
    There should be no question whether can you make it or not. Every crossing is unique from how it's protected and how fast a train is traveling. The severity makes it a no brainer.

    Back around 1990 I was in my POV at home. I was coming out the back way from our high school and there was unprotected tracks I had to cross. Since they sat high up, I stopped, looked both ways and proceeded across. At the same time a 55mph train come out from behind the blind curve and trees. I floored it and he barely missed me. I wrote a letter to the local newspaper editor about my experience on a road traveled frequently by high school students. With in a month blockades were put and the road was closed at the tracks. The main entrance to the school has an overpass. I felt good about that. I possibly saved a kids life. But it only happened because I was almost a victim. I respect railroad tracks to the max.
     
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  9. Robert Gift

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    They must give you opportunity to react and do what is appropriate.
    This is why traffic signals have a minimum 3-second yellow before red.
    Crossing signals have no yellow pre warning signal.

    Crossing signals are to activate a minimum 25-seconds before train arrival.
     
  10. Robert Gift

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    1.) Track maintenence vehicle had at least 25 seconds warning from the signals activating to clear foul. No excuse for that collision.
    2.) Crewman forgets to throw track switch back for following train to continue straight. Thengineer was late in noticing thathe switch target is RED, indicating thathe track is switched to the siding. Even had he noticed as early as it could have been seen, he still would have hithe train, but at lesspeed.
    3.) Drugged/sleeping engineer fails to stop his train before his signal. Before his RED signal he had at least one signal indicating the next one ahead was RED.

    The absurd reinactments are idiotic and unneeded.
    What a shame to destroy a nice school bus, as though we wouldn't knowhat would happen.
    Van bursting into flames had a charge rigged to ignite gasoline.
    Just wait until another useless reinactment results in a freak situation where a part gets under and derails the locomotives. Maybe the morons will cease such nonsense.

    -The 6,000-ton freightrain was moving slowly, not "barreling down the tracks". Other video used and the collison video was speeded up before impact.

    -Why did orange truck not remain stopped where it would not have been hit. Insteadriver proceeded into the path of the train. Driver thoughthe train was on the track on which he stopped?

    -The woman driver, once entering the intersection, should have proceeded - which is perfectly legal of any vehicle in an intersection when signals change. Can't understand why she would STOP in front of an approaching train. Hope the IDIOT never drives again.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2011
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