Fuel your truck while running

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by scatruck, May 16, 2011.

  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Do this.....

    Fill a coffee can full of gas....

    Fill another half way......


    Drop lit match in each one.....

    The half full one will ignite much easier because of a higher "Vapor pressure"....


    The full can will be harder to initiate ignition....Due to the air/fuel mixture being too rich.....


    Carbon Monoxide will ignite....given the correct air/fuel mixture....
    Anyone who has worked in a mine or on a subway project knows this fact....
     
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  3. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Come on...anything is possible....I bet he was a Ph.D. at 17 too....:biggrin_2559:
     
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  4. jeffdiesel

    jeffdiesel Bobtail Member

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    I leave my truck running cause I dont want to wait there to let the turbo cool at idle before I put fuel in. I shut the bike off cause 1) its loud and 2) I got to have the key to open the gas cap. I leave the wifes gas powered Suburban running cause the only time I drive it, I've got the family loaded up and leave the a/c on for 'em. Sorry, I dont believe its gonna blow up.
     
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  5. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Your turbo should be cooled by the time you get to the pumps,

    provided you drive sanely.....
     
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  6. fancypants

    fancypants Medium Load Member

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    Thats just stupid
     
  7. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    In the states it's agains't the law. Plus it's just not too smart in almost all cases. Here's what sometimes happen. After you get the gas flowing you jump back inside your vehicle. You can start to build a static charge. Then you jump out and touch the nozzle and start a small fire. Most people panic and pull the nozzle out and then have a bigger fire. The station burns down and guess who's responsible? You are, remember it's agains't the law. I couldn't begin to tell you how many people I have told to shut their car off with me, the gasoline truck, unloading right next to them. Some will bad mouth me to were I have to shut my flow off and then I just go in and stop their pump.

    I have seen just about every which way that a spark has been introduced at a gasoline station. The best was a kid showing his stungun to his buddy right next to the fill point of his pickup. I was there unloading and could not figure what the clicking was. When I did I jumped to hit my emergency shutoff and the kid then realized what he was doing and I think he pooped his pants. We've even had a store manager check the dip stick, for the underground tank, at night with a lighter and set himself on fire.

    Gasoline is very easy to burn so you try to reduce any spark producing devices or technics. I understand being -40° and keeping the car running. I would do it too. However, I'd make sure that I discharged myself before touching any nozzle or hose parts and ensure no vapors got under the car. A lot of people don't know that gasoline vapors are heavier than air and float along the ground.

    There are 2 myths that are just wrong. 1, A cell phone may cause a spark or fire, and 2, Throwing a lit cigarette into a pale of gasoline will just go out. There's been many studies done about cell phones and throwing a lit object into a flammable substances. The cell phone never did produce any hazard but a lit object or cigarette did. The conditions must be right.

    For any fire three conditions must exsits. Fuel,Air,and Heat take any one away and no fire. You can fuel your truck and leave it running as long the nozzle is continuously in contact with the intake pipe (FMCSR 392.50) and you have no hazmat onboard (FMCSR 397.15). Just use a lot of common sense because it's better to take the extra time than to have a fire. Fires scare me.
     
  8. Flying Dutchman

    Flying Dutchman Road Train Member

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    I fuel gas vehicles with the engine off, always. Diesel vehicles, it varies. If its a pickup or tractor, it runs. the truck, I am almost always fueling at the end of the day, at which time I complete paperwork and do some post-trip inspections so I shut the engine off.
     
  9. dieselpowerrules

    dieselpowerrules Light Load Member

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    I've always fueled diesels while running simply because the engines are big and there is no sense in stopping it more than necessary. Since I've started driving professionally, I have also started fueling gas vehicles with them running, but maybe I should rethink this after reading some of these opinions...
     
  10. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

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    Yes I Graduated from BTC in 2007 for Aviation Technology. Then instead of going into that feild like and IDIOT, i did what i wanted to do instead of what paid good, so i worked in auto garages for a few years after High School.



    American Trucker
     
  11. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    Fires scare me too. I can agree with whoever said that dust can cause fires/explosions too. Ive had a fair amount of OSHA and MSHA training seeing as I used to work in Powerplants, Steel mills, and Underground mines. If you watch videos on Dust Explosions, i'll just say whew.
     
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