C.R. England and Sons, Inc. - West Valley, Ut.

So, you expect us to believe you rolled 9,000 miles last week? Just like you expect us to believe you're not paying variable mileage, despite not completing at least the 20-22 months minimum it would take to attain that status. I may be a fool, according to ONLY you, but at least I'm not lying on behalf of a horrible company. You cetainly fit the mafia mold...

 

Today on the Qualcomm the permit department said our pre-pass transponders will not work at the scales anymore. I wonder if England failed the CVSA road check this month?

 

I usually don't get involved with discussions pertaining to what company is bad or good, I usually stay on my bog and read the others. But I need to throw something out there that I heard today, while having a discussion with a new driver for CRE that I met today waiting in line to get my truck washed.

I'm usually very skeptical when it comes to the England debate. The reason why is back in 1981 England was the first OTR company I worked for. I had my chauffeurs license (Pre CDL) and decided I would give it a whirl. I stayed with them from March '81 thru August '91. My first truck with them was a cab over Mack. They only had 650 trucks back then. When I left in 91 they had grown to 1500 trucks and was on their way downhill.

This driver I met today had only 3 weeks under his belt and was telling me that his trainer only had 2 years under his. He went on to tell me his biggest check to date was $315, but that he was ok with that because he had gotten his CDL through their school. He told me that he and his trainer, who was leasing a truck from them, had been out for 3 weeks and his trainers biggest check after expenses was $495. This kid I was talking to had a great attitude and was very sincere in his quest to get his one year in. He told me countless war stories about what he has been through. I gave him some insight about what to expect and told him that the most important thing he could do would to get one year in then he would be able to move up the ladder so to speak.

In our short conversation what I took from him was that he was very enthusiastic about his new career and that he was determined to succeed. What I gleaned from him about CRE was that all they want is bodies in the seats and not give a #### about the driver or newbie. It makes me wonder where these future drivers would go if England went out of business, either due to financial reasons or by the Federal Government.

I don't have any real hard facts about what these L/O's make but after reading countless stories here and talking to this young driver, I would need to see some cold hard evidence from any one who says they are making money there. I will stop short of calling them liars, but man do you need to back up what you say with facts.

If you are new or thinking of getting into this field, please consider some other company besides England. I'm not convinced anyone, new or a L/O is making any sort of money there.

 

Once non-credible information is posted, there's no way to back anything up with "facts". This CRE millionaire could easily fabricate a PDF and post it, showing all the gillions he's making. This is especially true if the guy is actually an office geek/IT guy, as I suspect.

 

I'd REALLY like to see the breakdown of that nine-grand-plus revenue figure. Come to think of it, I'd like to see the breakdown of the six-grand variable costs as well.

Things just aren't ringing true here. Sorry to appear to doubt your integrity, but right now it just doesn't seem feasible.

 

I'm starting to understand why you and CRE are not a good fit. Here's the detail on revenue:

6,859 loaded miles # .90
161 empty miles # .80
7,020 total miles # .42 fuel rebate

Total $9,302.30 for the week

Like I said before, I can do better. I'm still learning do drive and trip plan properly...

REYJAC

 

I won't apologize to anyone, because I KNOW it's BS. They do offer a $1.50 a mile rate, but that's on VERY short runs, and you'd have to do one helluva lots of loading/unloading and dropping and hooking to get 90 of those 100-mile runs, or 45 of the 200-mile runs in a week.

This is just like the supertrucker guy with the fingerless gloves, ponytail, leather vest and mirrored shades who swears the NYC cop told him to drive over the cars near the intersection... only after being to NYC a bunch, that one might be true.

 

I smell an office troll... and while this is entertaining, having disproven several aspects of this guy's story, I have work to do. Toodles, folks.

 

How did you do 7K last week? How often do you "train"? And do you really have less than one year experience?

 

7,020 miles divided by 58 MPH = 121.03 hours of driving.

( 58 MPH is the average speed used to bid on haul contracts )