I went through about 18 months of threads and found all sorts of information on rates for drivers on trucks owned by others, but not really much information, at least nothing I thought to be definitive, about what the second half of a team would be paid if they don't have a vested interest in the truck.
No benefits would be available to me via the O/O's company. No health, disability, retirement, paid time off etc.
It seems from reading other threads that drivers working for O/Os are getting ~20-25% of a truck's revenue if driving solo for someone else, but would that hold true for a driver that is hopping on an O/O's truck to run with them? Is there an industry standard for this?
What is a reasonable rate to ask? Gross or net? Would it be reasonable to request an amount equivalent to a team company driver adjusted for the absence of benefits?
Thanks for your help. I've been reading this forum and contemplating this move for a few years now and fixing to finally take the plunge.
Pay for co-driver under O/O?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by the_n00b, Jun 21, 2011.
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Years ago I paid 15% of gross to a person I had helping me for a couple months. At the time teams working for O/O's would get 30% so I figured half of that would be fair.
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Welcome to TTR forum and to the trucking industry. I'm trying to figure out what's driving you thought process. Do you have an owner/operator in mind. I don't know many owner/operators that are in the business of training unless you know someone personally. Cost and risk factor are too high. In addition, I'm not aware of many owner/operators that want to run team. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's sure not the fast track to a trucking career. And pay will be what you're offered.
Not many companies, fleet owners or owner/operators offer benefits. Benefits are fast leaving all US jobs or employee share of costs are making them unavailable. If you take a percentage job you are an independent contractor, responsible for paying you own taxes quarterly. You need to get some driver training. You seem to be asking a question about something you have no control over and a position that's not likely to be offered.
Since you seem to be looking to get a start in trucking. You need to research and find out what is available and what the important questions are. You can make an above average living but you will make sacrifices that other jobs don't require. I want new people entering to find out what's going on and make a plan, so I'll give you my cut and paste advice. Take it for what it is worth.
Read the "good companies" and "bad companies" section on this forum and get an idea of what company you want to work for and what kind of trailer you want to pull. Don't just go to school and then try to figure out where to go.
You need to look at your driving record and criminal record. Many don't take this into consideration and find out they can't get a job after school. The school likely won't mention this because they want your money.
I don't know your financial situation. Don't take training from a company if you can afford it or get it with financial aid. You will be their slave for up to year. If you leave they will trash you DAC and credit record.
Just know that training and trucking company recruiters will do nothing but lie to you. They will let you talk about what you want and then tell you what you want to hear. Trucking is about moving freight to make money for the company. Your home time, family, paycheck and everything else comes second.
It is not like any other job. Local is usually backbreaking delivery work 10+ hours a day, 6 days a week. Often you unload dozens of times a day or you are a salesman. Regional is lots of loading and unloading time, fewer miles than OTR and not as hard as local but will wear on you and push your HOS limits. OTR is out 3 - 5 weeks with 3 - 4 days home, less manual labor and more miles.
You'll probably have to pay your dues before you get the gravy job. Weekends off, if you are lucky enough to get something like that starting out, may be home Thursday afternoon and leave Saturday night or home Friday night and leave Sunday afternoon. Loads deliver on Monday early and you leave in time to get them there. Often your home time will be in the middle of the week.
Regardless of your driving choice, after school you will go through company training. This can be six weeks to three months with little or no home time. The first phase is usually $400 a week and the second phase is $500-550 a week. Some pay less. One company pays 12 CPM for training.
the_n00b Thanks this. -
My best friend from high school (we're both in our 30s now) is the O/O. We have lived in a studio apartment with a third dude in our younger days so the close quarters shouldn't be a concern. More than anything I'm just looking for a start in the industry to see if I have a passion for it, and to have an experience and an opportunity to get out of this town I've been stagnating in for 15 years.
I am a single guy with no dependents, zero debt, and I will not be maintaining a residence back home. I intend to use my off time primarily for traveling to, and checking out, interesting places that I've been while on the truck and seeing if I find a place that I want to settle in that's not Phoenix.
I have spent 3 of the last 7 years self employed so I'm used to handling my own taxes.
My 60 month MVR and my criminal record are spotless.
I'll be training with Swift before hopping on my buddy's truck, and without any debt or any living expenses aside from those on the road, and with some cash in the bank already, I don't intend to be stuck in the financing for my training for more than a couple of months. The Swift recruiter has made no promises. He's explained the hiring and training process and told me that after the mentoring period with a company trainer that it's all between myself and the O/O.
I'll be driving OTR with my main dude. Both he and my other best friend have been driving for a decade and I've listened to literally hundreds of hours of them talking about the job. I do hope to make a decent living and I do expect to have a radically different life experience than the one I've been having. I have no illusions about the job being glamorous or about getting rich doing it.
What I don't know about, and neither does my O/O, is what is a standard, or fair and equitable split for this sort of arrangement as I've never been a driver and he's reasonably new to being an O/O.
Ive carefully considered this for a handful of years and I'm free of commitments and have an opportunity to go do it now.
I really appreciate your thorough and thoughtful response. Thanks for making sure I know what I'm getting into. If I enjoy it and stick in this business I'll be sure to pay that forward to some n00b's question one day.
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