1 Sheet Explaining Split Breaking

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Feb 9, 2007.

Did the document help anyone understand the basic split?

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  1. HereticalFaction

    HereticalFaction Bobtail Member

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    Any chance of posting as a .txt or .rtf file? I don't have Word.

    -HF
     
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  3. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I am not sure how to do that? Do you know how to change a word document into txt. Wait I might, but I will have to do that after work if I get on. I might go out tonight :). But I will by the end of the week
     
  4. HereticalFaction

    HereticalFaction Bobtail Member

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    Two ways:

    1: Open the document in Word. Highlight all the text and capture it with the copy function. Open "Notepad" and copy. Then use save function of Notepad... this will produce a .txt version of the file.

    2: Open document in Word. Activate "Save As" function. Under the block where you would enter the name of the file there should be a drop down menu of file types. Chose .txt (plaintext) or .rtf (richtext). Then save as usual and Word will save the document in the indicated format.

    Thanks for the effort.

    -HF
     
  5. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    It just won't work, I have tried everything just to post it in a different way and it's just not workig:biggrin_2553:
     
  6. HereticalFaction

    HereticalFaction Bobtail Member

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    Ah well, thanks anyway.

    -HF
     
  7. class441

    class441 Light Load Member

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    The problem I have is once you do a split break, you drive what you have left and then you have to take 10 to drive again. The 2 does nothing but it can be applied to your 10? And are we back to normal after that or does that 2 not actually help make the 10 so you have 11 hrs?

    I think probably the whole thing was made so we aren't forced to take 8 hour breaks all the time. It's too bad you can't say to a fleet manager "Hey, I slept good during my 8 hr break, put me on for 11!" or "You know what, I got about 2 hrs sleep, so I'm going to take 10 when this crap's unloaded."
     
  8. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Class you can split break all year long without a 10 hour break. When split breaking if you follow my A,B,C steps it will tell you exactly what to do to figure out your 11 & 14 (doing the 14 rule first). When I talk about breaks I am talking about the 8 & 2 (ignore any breaks that are less than that)

    What you need is an 8 & 2 hour break. The 8 hour break MUST BE in the sleeper.

    SPLIT BREAKING ONLY! EFFECTIVE 10-1-05

    DOT now says if you have must have at least an 8 hour CONSECUTIVE sleeper break to extend your 14 hour period.
    To extend the 14 hour you; count over from your original 14 hour mark by the number of hours in the sleeper and make a new mark this will be your final 14 hour mark. From the time you started your day to the time you get your second break you can not drive over 11 hours.
    A break of 2 hours consecutive of off duty & sleeper followed by an 8 hour SLEEPER break can be used to clear any driving time prior to the first sleeper. But the 2 hour break CAN NOT be used to extend the 14 hour.
    8 Hour Break first

    Draw a log grid out from the times I am giving you so you have a picture of what the words are saying. This is the 8 hour break coming first, then you follow my abc steps and you can figure out what to do after the end of each break: Keep practicing the steps and make a day 2 or more continus split break until you get the right idea! YOu have to ignore what's ahead on the grid and go step by step. See if this helps


    12:00 am to 12:15 am line 4
    12:15 am to 5:15 driving
    5:15 to 1:15 pm sleeper
    1:15 pm to 4:15 driving
    4:15 pm to 4:30 line 4 (on duty
    4:30 pm to 5:30 off duty
    5:30 to 8:30 pm driving
    8:30 to 8:45 line 4 (on duty
    8:45 to 10:45 pm sleeper
    10:45 to 12:00 am driving.


    The above driver started working at 12:00 am, his 14 hour was up @ 2:00 pm, and he took an 8 hour SLEEPER break so he could extend his 14 hour to 10:00 pm. From 12:00 am to 10:00 pm his driving time can NOT be more than 11 hours and he can not DRIVE past 10:00 pm. He must now take @ least a 2 hour break of off duty or sleeper combination. Once he completes that 2 hour break he needs to do the below 3 steps. These steps take place after the 2nd break of either 8+2 or 2+8 if you want to continue split breaking.
    SPLIT BREAKING

    After the SECOND BREAK:
    A. Go to the end of the previous break count over 14 hours (make your mark)
    B. From the end of the previous break look forward and ask; do you have 8 hrs or more in the SLEEPER?
    If yes: Count total hours in the sleeper; count over that many hours
    From your original 14 hr mark you JUST MADE on step A and make a new mark.
    That mark is your final 14 hr window. (You must stop driving by that mark) Remember 8 hour break or more extends the 14 hour that is why we counted over.
    If no: then your 14 hour mark is the one you marked on step A. (If there is only a 2 hour break it will not extend the 14 hour)
    C. Add up driving hours in between the 8 & 2 breaks subtract that answer from 11 & that is how many hours you can drive.
    Another Sample (2 hour break first)

    12:00 am to 12:15 am line 4
    12:15 am to 5:15 driving
    5:15 am to 5:45 on duty
    5:45 am to 7:00 am off duty
    7:00 am to 7:45 sleeper
    7:45 to 10:45 driving
    10:45 to 11:00 on duty
    11:00 to 12:00 off duty
    12:00 to 2:00 driving
    2:00 to 2:15 line 4
    2:15 to 10:15 sleeper
    10:15 to 12:00 am driving

    The driver started at 12:00 am which makes his 14 hour end @ 2:00 pm. In the 14 hour period he did take a 2 hour break, but the 2 hours will NOT EXTEND THE 14 HOUR, but he can use that 2 hours towards his 10 hour break (again you are split breaking if u do this). He goes to the sleeper at 2:15 and takes an 8 hour SLEEPER break; this satisfies his 10 hour break. Now he will follow steps A, B & C above. The driver above was on line 4 past his 14 hour, this is legal you can be on line 4 past your 14 hour you just can not drive!
    A. answer; My 14 hour would restart at 7:45 am, count over 14 hours that would make my 14 hour end at 9:45 pm
    B. answer; I do have an 8 hour sleeper break so I can count over 8 hours that would make my 14 hour actually end at 5:45 am the next day.
    C. answer; my driving hours available would be 6.
     
  9. bor

    bor Light Load Member

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    HereticalFaction.
    can you open the file at all with what you have? it just wont let you save as or print etc...?
    If so, Just use your print screen button on keyboard - Then open up your notepad and paste in two sections. ie; splitlog page1 and split log page 2
    That is what I had to do. my crappy version of WORD expired in 2004. I never use it, so I never converted it to the Full Product.
    Just a thought. If you can open it... You can save it!
    If not let me know, and once I am able to post attachments I will link it as a .txt
     
  10. bor

    bor Light Load Member

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    Cant wait to see this one!!
    I think I understand from the 1st example you gave us, But I am sure this next example should put her to bed for us slow Laners!!
    Thanks LOgsRus!!!
     
  11. Gismo

    Gismo Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for this post on split breaking. I am new to the forum but not new to trucking (20 years). I have never used the split sleeper berth and have always found it much easier to just take the full break. However, sometimes it might be handy when I need to get to my destination, so I would like to learn how to do it. :biggrin_255:
     
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