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Is this a legal split break example?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BridgettAnn, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. Jul 6, 2011 #11
    Meltom

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    Don't let us get you down, keep on posting. Every question adds something to the forum
     
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  3. Jul 6, 2011 #12
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    Except yours.



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  4. Jul 6, 2011 #13
    BridgettAnn

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    Okay... Now. I think I do get it.

    If this is accurate, I get it.

    EXAMPLE: (assume pre/posts are done of course) (= line 3, ie: driving)

    leave truck stop at 2:30 drive to pick up at 3:00. (.50)

    Pick up at 3:30 Pm. Drive unitl 7:00 Pm. Take 2 hr nap :biggrin_25518: and fuel (3.5)

    Drive from 9:15. Drop load at 10:00 Pm. (.75)

    Drive from 10:30 Pm to next shipper at 12:00 Am, Hook. (1.5)

    Drive from 12:30 Am to 2:30 Am. (2.0)

    In sleeper from 2:30 am to 10:30 Am. :biggrin_25518:

    Drive from 10:45 to 12:45 Pm... Drop (2.0)

    ** Now, If I actually get this, the 14 hour clock starts over at 9:00 Pm, minus the 8 hours spent in the sleeper means the 14 is up at 12:30 pm. ??? Or is the 14 up at 7:00 PM I'm still confused as to how many hours get added back in**
    ~BridgettAnn
     
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  5. Jul 6, 2011 #14
    Tightwad

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    Your new 14 hours starts at 9:00 PM (When you came out of the sleeper from the 2 hour nap).

    Your new 14 ends at 7:00 PM because the clock was stopped during the 8 hour break. 14 hours + 8 (In sleeper birth) means your 14 is up in 22 hours.

    PS be careful because you already have 0.25 Fuel + 0.75 Driving + 0.50 Drop + 1.5 Driving + 0.5 Hook + 2.0 Driving + 2.0 Driving + 0.5 Drop (12:45 PM - 1:15 PM).
    Thats 6.25 Driving + 1.75 On-Duty. Its theoretically possible you could exceed 11.00 hours driving before 7:00 PM
     
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  7. Jul 6, 2011 #15
    Scalemaster

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    Therein lies the problem, I think.

    A few thoughts for you on the sleeper split and 14 hr rule:
    - after 10 hrs off-duty you have earned yourself 11 hrs of driving time and have 14 hrs in which to get it done
    - 14 hr timer begins counting down when you go on-duty, (anything lines 3 or 4)
    - the only thing that earns you time back is 10 hrs off, (lines 1 or 2)
    - if you split your break, you do not earn time until you have COMPLETED the full 10 hrs off-duty - both portions of the split
    - the 8 hr sleeper portion is the ONLY thing that will temporarily stop the 14 hr countdown, it resumes when you go on-duty again.

    The current split sleeper option is very un-handy, unlike the previous one.
     
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  8. Jul 6, 2011 #16
    Cudascious

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    Yea try to stay away from split sleeper, there are usually better ways to "budget" the time. Its usually not worth it to delay the 10 hour reset. If youve already spent 8 in the sleeper, then usually its possible to go all the way to 10. At least thats what I have found in my short experience so far. Use only in a tight squeeze to avoid a late load/pick-up.
     
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  9. Jul 6, 2011 #17
    Frenzy

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    It's back up at 7:00 PM

    The driver burned 5.5 hrs between the end of his 2hr break and start of his sleeper time. After the end of his sleeper time he had (14 - 5.5 = 8.5) hrs left on his 14 hr clock. His 14 would end 8.5 hrs later. (at 7pm)

    The easy way to track 14hr / sleeper berth is to take the time between the 2hr break and the start of sleeper berth, subtract that number from 14, and add it to the end of the sleeper berth.

    Keep at it, you've got it, you are just talking yourself out of it.
     
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  10. Jul 6, 2011 #18
    BridgettAnn

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    Oh my gosh! Good. I got it. :biggrin_2559:

    Thank you gentlemen so much for taking the time to read my posts and respond so kindly. I'm really new to this. My Boyfriend has been an OTR / O/O for many years (for 30, since he was 21). I've known him for many years but we've only been "together" for about 7 months. Anyway, the motor blew in the KW back in November, put him out of commission for a while and he didn't want to go back to his old company because the pay was, well, crummy. Sooo.... we spent December to June acting like teenagers and falling in love.... He just got back on the road in the middle of June. (I know... I know but it was indeed time well spent).
    The point is, I am very interested in what he does and very interested in learning about trucking. So some of my questions may seem so very "101" to you guys but I do appreciate learning from the knowledgeable, seasoned drivers that you are. I can't always talk to him when he's on the road... and when he's home, we have other things to attend to.
    Thanks again for your patience and kindness. :yes2557:
    ~BridgettAnn
     
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