what is the best company for veterans to start with?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by pavlonperez, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. pavlonperez

    pavlonperez Bobtail Member

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    So after spending time looking for a new career after the army decided not to let me renew my contract for active duty I decided to follow my father foot steps(2 millions safe mile with CRST and JB hunt currently a owner operator) and get my CDL. After looking to many schools and due to my not so perfect driving record the only companies that would take me were USA and PAM along with a few small trucking companies in the Fort Hood area,C.R England wouldnt take me because of an accident late last year. So since I kept my NJ driver license i would have to do the training in Texas(some stupid NJ law)or NJ which a decent training would be about 4500(S&S or windsor). So I chose to do the "premier choice" with driver solutions Fort Worth,TX (I know about the bad reputation and low pay but I only have to pay 4k since I'm paying out of pocket) and PAM since they have a yard in Sayreville,NJ and its close to the area where I plan to settle down for good. I'm supposed to start classes on the 18th of this month to get the 1200 dollars bonus. Again this is just to gain experience so I can become a owner operator and hopefully have my own business down the road.
    So the question is; What companies are good for veterans?
     
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  3. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    First of all, Welcome and thank you for your service...

    Next,,,slow your roll.... Why are YOU paying for your CDL when the good ole GI-Bill will?????? Look under "apprenticeship"...

    Good Luck
     
  4. pavlonperez

    pavlonperez Bobtail Member

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    post 9/11 G.I bill would not cover it unless they give me college credits(my wife is using it for her masters anyway), NJ national guard will reimbursed me as long as I finish the program as I finish so technically I will not pay for it
     
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  5. BigBluePeter

    BigBluePeter Heavy Load Member

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    You went to the wrong school then. There are several that do give college credit.
     
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  6. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    Welcome to the TTR Forum and the industry. What does veterans mean? Military or trucking? IMHO, veteran drivers have about 7 years or so. Certainly two or three to open many doors. One year to get into places I don't want to work. And I don't know that a veteran as far as military will make much difference in your company choice.

    If you want real suggestions you may have to air your accident and ticket record. These can be real killers. It may get you a little banged up on the forum though. You can research on your own as most company websites say what they will accept.

    I hope you don't have plans for going owner/operator for a year or two. The failure rate is very high and the economy is not so good. It will take that long to master the duties of a driver. Those duties are only a small part of being an owner/operator and the easy part. I hope you aren't considering a lease/purchase!

    At any rate I think I'll give you my copy and paste advice for new drivers. Take it for what it's worth.

    You need to research and find out what the important questions are. You can make an above average living but you will make sacrifices that other jobs don't require. Read the "good companies" and "bad companies" section on this forum and get an idea of what company you want to work for and what kind of trailer you want to pull. Don't just go to school and then try to figure out where to go.

    I don't know your financial situation. Don't take training from a company if you can afford it or get it with financial aid. You will be their slave for up to year. If you leave they will trash you DAC and credit record. Check out your local community colleges and employment office.

    Just know that most training and trucking company recruiters will do nothing but lie to you. They will let you talk about what you want and then tell you what you want to hear. Trucking is about moving freight to make money for the company. Your home time, family, paycheck and everything else comes second.

    It is not like any other job. Local is usually backbreaking delivery work 10+ hours a day, 6 days a week. Often you unload dozens of times a day or you are a salesman. In my area most dump truck jobs pay less than a good factory job. Regional is lots of loading and unloading time, fewer miles than OTR and not as hard as local but will wear on you and push your HOS limits. OTR is out 3 - 5 weeks with 3 - 4 days home, less manual labor and more miles.

    You'll probably have to pay your dues before you get the gravy job. Weekends off, if you are lucky enough to get something like that starting out, may be home Thursday afternoon and leave Saturday night or home Friday night and leave Sunday afternoon. Loads deliver on Monday early and you leave in time to get them there. Often your home time will be in the middle of the week.

    Regardless of your driving choice, after school you will go through company training. For OTR this can be six weeks to three months with little or no home time. The first phase is usually $400 a week and the second phase is $500-550 a week. Some pay less. One company pays 12 CPM for training.
     
  7. Hanzerik

    Hanzerik Light Load Member

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    I just retired from the USAF, and Tuition Assistance (Post 9/11 GI Bill) paid for half of the course I took at Sage here in Cheyenne.

    Graduated Sage on the 13th of June and started driving for a local Oilfield company on the 23 of June hauling a water tanker. Dirty work and long hours, but the pay is good. Can be monotonous hauling water from a rural well to location over and over again, but it can be interesting at times. Like when you get a rain shower for a few minutes and all the roads turn to goop after a few trucks have rolled over them. Then it gets dirty, and slippery, when you get on location where they prepped the area for the frac process. But getting paid a decent wage by the hour (long hours) and time and a half over 40, and getting to sleep in my own bed every night make up for it.
     
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  8. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    Welcome home if you went to the sand box and thanks for your service! BUT Before you decide to do any schooling was there no option of moving from the Army to another branch and keep serving?

    Now:: Please oh please do NOT waste your GI Bill on a freaking driving mill, but check with a local community college or trade school for a lot less money! These mills are so over priced it's stupid! Trade schools are usually less than $1000 for the course and I've seen many posts in TTR stating # $500!

    Think long and hard about taking the "training" from any company unless you are single and have no bills, even a car payment as most of them think you are only worth dirt pay and will use you as a team driver then throw you under the bus when you're done or try and try to get you to fleece er lease a truck!

    IMHO I would really look into a different field of work and stay away from this cess pool called driving until they get this "recession/depression" fixed as many of these companies are still trying to BS the world that freight rates are still dirt cheap and driver pay is reflecting that lie!

    But whatever you decide good luck!

    BTW what was your MOS that The Army riffed you out like it did to me in '75 just after letting me reenlist!
     
  9. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    First of all,,"Rollover", thanks for your service....

    2nd; a little harsh on the transportation industry,,no? LOL I guess since you have 32 years as a Truck Driver, you have the RIGHT to say how you see it.

    Above I thanked you for your service. At that time I was refering to your time in the Armed Forces but, now I am thinking of your time in the Armed Forces and your time as a Truck Driver,,thank you for both of your services to this great country.
     
  10. pavlonperez

    pavlonperez Bobtail Member

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    Since Im paying out of pockets for me its ok I will not have any commitment to any company or harassing collecting companies if I decide to leave after 6 months or so. When it comes to options for civilian jobs my MOS is not something I could transfer my skills, one of the companies that was willing to hire me and it is because I know somebody in the company(now is if you dont have conections in a company good luck getting a decent job) was a warehouse company in the port of newark making a wooping 500 weekly as assistant manager for pjudge warehouse great company for local drivers bad companies for the rest of the employees the son owner is known for doing and hiring and firing spreads depending on the season and his mood I didnt wanted to get involved in a company like that.

    I was thinking about transferring to the marines but I had to go thru boot camp and the last thing I need is a lower enlisted personnel treating like #### (I'm a staff sergeant). so I chose to finish my last 14 years with the guard and no more changing duties stations plus what I'm going to be making in 2 days a month with them will cover half of the monthly expenses since we have no credit cards bills, no car loans.

    well Im not worry about family separation, 3 deployments in 6 years my wife is used to that. doing that leasing BS is not going to happen I got a good credit and Im not planning to mess it up just for a few more pennies and a boat load of headaches. May be after I get experience I will get a truck and work getting containers out of the port in new jersey like my father has been doing for the past 7 years or so and is making close to 1500 a week after expenses.

    BTW Im a 13D field artillery tactical data specialist better known as the brains of field artillery. I was one of those affected by the Army enlisted personnel reduction.
     
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