HOS Compliance
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by landy77, Jul 4, 2011.
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Well, yes, you can. There's no details in the off duty driving portion of 395 that states you have to be bobtail... only UNLADEN.
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When you gain experience and can guess when a shipper will load slowly, you can start a sleeper break while loading. If you have an EOBR, it tells you accurately how much time is left after a SSB break (2 or 8 hour). Sometimes a sleeper berth break helps, sometimes it doesn't. If you have an OBR, some companies set them to show you driving or on duty not driving as soon as you push in the tractor brake and pull out of the dock. If you can't show 8 hours in the bunk, you're screwed. If you show less than 8, your window runs out 14 hours after it started. If you're still in the sleeper at 8 hours and they don't want you out of the dock yet, try to make another 2 hours off duty for a 10 hr break.
If you have an OBR, you can't fudge a 14 hour violation- it will show you driving away. Some of them have a mile or two where it doesn't automatically change you to the drive line, some don't.
Don't get caught driving when you're not supposed to be with paper logs, just park at the shipper somewhere. If you meet a Police Person, tell them that if they will just give you permission, you'll go down the street to the truckstop. (They won't). If they ever do, note the Officer's name and that he directed you to leave. It doesn't mean anything but it looks really cool written in your logbook.
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this is easy! Get a pen a ruler and a log book....and MAKE IT LEGAL!
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Yes, you can. Company policy may dictate otherwise.
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Still cant just drive around because your empty. You can not use the personal conveyance" rule to seek a safe haven after being released from a shipper.
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LOL, off duty is off duty. The FMCSA has no guidelines of what you can and cannot do when off duty. Your truck is not a prison. And if you're empty, then you got released from a reciever, not a shipper.
Also, quit twisting what I say. You're making yourself look foolish.Last edited: Jul 7, 2011
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Honestly,
this is one of the gray areas of logging.
Do what you must do.
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There's another driver making up his own rules, after he interpreted it, or he heard it in a truckstop. Personal conveyance is personal conveyance. Drive home. Go to Walmart. Enjoy.
Shippers have nothing to do with whether you drive your truck "unladen".THBatMan8 Thanks this. -
A buddy of mine was out of hours in Topeka, at the Del Monte plant. He told the guy in receiving and was informed that we cannot make you break the law. Just find a spot and take your break.
The security guard came up and told him he had to leave. No parking allowed. Bryan told the guard he can't move or he'd be breaking the law. The guard insisted so B told him to go talk to the man in the receiving. The guard came back a bit later and apologized. Said that they are not allowed to make truckers leave if it is going to make them in violation of DOT laws.
You would think all places would have to be this way.scottied67 Thanks this.
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