Hauling cars in a reefer

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  1. Steering Wheel Holder

    Steering Wheel Holder Light Load Member

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    What you got there is a false sense of security. All that E & D track wont hold a car even in a light collision. All its gonna take is one jacknife and you are going to be out of business and lose your savings to an injury lawyer. Insurance wont cover that kind of securement. They make car transport trailers and use chain and anchor points for a reason. E-track to hold a car is a joke! Like tying a load of lumber to your compact car roof with twine.
     
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  3. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    You're right about cars and e-track. I wouldn't do it. If I really wanted to haul cars, I'd install proper anchor points attached to the frame. I'm guessing the loads I've seen with an e-track requirement are something that would tend to slide around on an aluminum floor. I won't go to the expense of adding e-track because there just haven't been that many loads like that passed up. When shopping for another I would take note of a trailer that someone else already paid for the upgrade on LOL.
     
  4. Unclegrumpy

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    Vehicles need to be anchored down as well as front to back and side to side, the materials must meet minimum wll (working load limit) anything else will get you put out of service till it's corrected.

    E-track won't cut it and improperly installed D-rings will fail also.
     
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  5. CondoCruiser

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    The anchor points need attached to the frame.

    The next question is how do you haul meat on a parking lot? :biggrin_25523:
     
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  6. Big Don

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    Well that shouldn't be too hard. You either jerk the meat before you haul it, so it don't need no refrigeration you know, and then put it in containers and secure the containers.

    OR, you put the meat in a walk in freezer. Put the freezer on the trailer and secure it. Then hook up a refer unit to the freezer.

    OR, you just throw a few slabs of beef or pork or whatever on top of the trailer and drive away. But you gotta keep moving this way, because after a few days, what hasn't either fallen off or been eaten by the ravens is gonna be a bit ripe, and you don't want to smell it in your tractor.

    Any other questions I can answer for you?:biggrin_2559:
     
  7. Hammer166

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    Actually, the current trend is moving towards only anchoring the wheels of new vehicles. Too much damage from guys tweaking unibodies by getting carried away with chain tension. GM, Toyota, MBZ, BMW, VW, and very soon Chrysler all require wheel straps on their cars.

    To the original point, most guys I see come into the auction with a box have either not secured the vehicle or just put load locks as chocks.:biggrin_2556::biggrin_2556:
     
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  8. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Yes they are all going to wheel strap requirements. But thinking their point is the e-track or how/where it attaches will be the issue in a worse case scenario.

    Personally would be just as worried about cars leaking oils coolant where food goes.
     
  9. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    Frames? Do you mean crossmembers? Never seen a Van with a frame.
     
  10. Unclegrumpy

    Unclegrumpy Light Load Member

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    How they're anchored is not my point Hammer, my point is that the vehicle has to be anchored so that it will not only be secure from forward and lateral movement but tipping as well, the best way to do this is to strap at the wheels.

    D-rings can be used but would have to be reinforced from under the trailer with steel plate, I don't think the crossmembers are strong enough to anchor to.
     
  11. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I'm not sure what you mean by 'tipping?' Wheel straps don't constrain vertical movement of the vehicle.

    In fact, they don't directly anchor the car directly but rather increase the static load on the tire, and therefore don't require the strength a chassis tie down. Think of a wheel strap as a large weight bolted to the wheel, as almost all it's applied force is vertical. A free-rolling car (no brakes, in neutral) will move around quite a bit if wheel strapped; it takes a few inches of movement from center before a wheel strap will generate any significant horizontal force to restrain the motion (I will not rely solely on straps for any free-rolling vehicle, you're asking for disaster.) All the horizontal forces on a properly locked down and strapped car are generated by the tires themselves.
     
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