My husband has been driving for five years, and I have been driving for app. 1-2 years. He has been an owner-op for four years, and I have never been a company driver, always drove with him.
We just lost our job, but we own the truck, an '07 Volvo 670, in excellent condition and almost paid for (a small bank loan on it). Now we have to decide whether to get our own authority, or lease on with another carrier. I have found some decent info on getting your own authority, but I still have questions, if anyone can help.
How much time does it take to get your authority, from the time you start until you're ready to take your first load? How much are the real total costs?
I've heard that load board freight is often a ripoff, but how else do you get loads. Hire a broker? I keep hearing horror stories about drivers being ripped off by brokers (stealing the fuel surcharge, etc.)
We were making about $2500-3000/wk as an owner/op team with a carrier. Would running under our own authority make enough more money to make it worthwhile to do?
Or if nothing else, are any decent companies hiring O/O? We're in Southern Arizona.
Thanks for any help. Feel free to PM if you have anything specific for us.
What to do...leaving a company
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Morella, Jul 17, 2011.
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Assuming you have your insurance and whatnot in order, the authority process takes 15-20 business days start to finish. You'll spend about 30 min to an hour filling out the online forms and the rest of the time waiting.
Actual cost is an individual thing. You've probably already seen the fees and stuff in the sticky threads. Probably around $2-3 thousand in fees, taxes, plates, insurance, etc. If you decide to hire a CPA, attorney for incorporation, and so on, there would be more cost involved. I almost forgot, you didn't mention owning a trailer...
Load board freight gets you out of the safety of a pre-negotiated deal you have as a l/o. You agree on the price to move the freight and go do it (or not) one load at a time. I don't get too far in the weeds over fsc and other add-ons. The price is the price. Bad brokers can be avoided much of the time with due diligence, but sooner or later one will get you. That's one of the risks that goes along with a greater potential upside.
You say you're "making" $2.5-3 thousand a week. Is that gross to the truck? Or what you actually bank after paying your truck bills? For apples to apples you need to express the numbers in terms of profit.
IMO if you're willing to take on some added risk, have some operating capital to start with, and put in the time/effort it takes to hustle freight and do all the paperwork, you're in a good position to operate under your own authority. You already have the most expensive of the battles I have fought behind you: you own your truck with the bugs already worked out, and you have been OTR long enough to have a leg up on the operation end.
If you want to resume operating as-is, you should find another carrier to sign on with. Many posts here with good direction either way.BigJohn54 Thanks this. -
Morella...a big consideration will be...what is the driving (accident) history that your truck has behind you. If you have a negative situation as far as CSA issues...finding a carrier to lease onto may prove difficult....just get some research in before committing to a set plan of action.
It isn't only the carriers that are looking at CSA scores on the drivers/trucks...the shippers also have that information now. -
That's encouraging. I was thinking it would take several months.
Well, we already have to pay for taxes, plates, insurance, we're already incorporated, and we already have an accounting firm that we like, so most of that is covered, but we might need to buy a trailer.
You mean you don't get paid FSC? I'm not familiar with the expression "in the weeds". Considering fuel is about 60 cents a mile or more, I think you need the FSC, unless you mean that the revenue you make is enough to comfortably pay the fuel? I think I'm missing your point.
That's after fuel and most other expenses, but we still have to make a small monthly tractor payment (paying off the rest of the balloon). But, it's also after a 10% maintenance account deduction, so tires and most mtx expenses are covered out of that.
We have to deal with FHUT and a few other things. Would it be dreaming to think we could get $2 or more a mile if we provide everything? -
Does it matter whether or not the accidents are preventables, or who caused them? The last time I checked, CSA didn't care if the wreck was caused by a drunken four-wheeler coming across all four lanes or by the commerical MV, it was still the truck driver's fault. I think the idea is to get "us" out, so that they can use cheaper foreign drivers, but that's another discussion.
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You could get $2, but not always, and is it worth the headache having your own authority. Since you are a team you should be making a lot more than $2K or $3K.
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What do you mean by that. Foreign drivers make a lot more than american drivers. Foreigh drivers dont drive for JB Hunt, Werner, Roehl or some other rip off big company.
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It is possible to average over $2 a mile leased to the right company, with your own trailer. But before you lease to someone check out the cost of workers comp, being a corp can cause extra insurance cost over being a sole proprietor.
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What is your basis for your claims about foreign driver pay?
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I don't think we're paying the workman's comp, although I know we were at one time, because we were hit from behind by a U-Haul truck, and the workman's comp bugged me night and day to try to get me to make a claim. Unless we're required to buy it, there's not much point, with just me and the husband running.
Well, the hubby has been in PHX job shopping all day, so maybe something will come through. I don't mind leasing on with a carrier, except that they put you through a lot of humiliation. It seems like they treat everyone like children. Since I was a professional person for the ten years preceding truck driving, I really don't appreciate the condescending signs and messages that they continuously send out.
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