Thanks g/man.
Been looking at another truck as well. 2006 international 9400 72 inch mid roof isx 475hp 18sp 720, 000 miles 19500 hrs.
Would I see a noticeable improvement over the w900? Do the miles vs eng hours sound about right? They're asking $39, 500 I think you'd get it for $35, 000 and they told me $1300 for a headache rack w/ 2 chain hangers and full tray installed. Would I be getting hosed? Still waiting to see oil analyst and service/warranty history.
Any money to be made?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by onedayaway, Jun 28, 2011.
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Try to get a dyno done also. That can tell you a lot of stuff when it's hooked to the machines. Oil pressure, boost, they can mesure blow by and all the stuff to het a better idea if the motor is strong.
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The 9400 is a good truck. I have an older one with a CAT and 10 speed. My average for that truck is 6.29 mpg. I have gotten over 7 mpg, but not consistently. I would expect that you should get between 6-7 mpg. I don't think that you can come close to the fuel mileage with the W900. Either truck would do a good job for you with the type of hauling you plan on doing. The International would be a little more maneuverable that the W900. The KW would probably also be a little heavier than the International.
The price for the headache rack seems high. I have one that I believe costs about $800 when new. That price is just for the headache rack.BigJohn54 Thanks this. -
Yeah, the international is a 228" wb and the kenworth is a 244" wheelbase. We keep them pretty short in canada due to our 244" wb law, there's not a ton of room to slide the 5th wheel on a w900L with a 72" bunk. LOL Some guys seem to prefer the extra wheel base though for the better ride and some feel they handle better in our ###### canadian winters. lol I've heard the w900's are heavier than most, but in our line of work it really doesn't matter. The international just seems like a much cleaner truck inside and out compared to the w9 plus the 9400 is 3 years newer and the exact same price with almost the exact same km its also has the cummins which I'm more familiar with and it's the only motor the company I'll be working for runs so our shop knows them quite well.
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I think you may have answered your own question. I really love the looks of the W900. Kenworth does make a good truck. But, you can get a lot of value from International. I own both and prefer the International. I think that it is the best truck that I have ever owned and I have owned a number of trucks over the years.
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So a little update...
I spoke to the dealer and they said they'd gladly do a oil analyst so long as I was willing to put a deposit on the truck pending analysis results. It surprises me they didn't do one before accepting the truck on trade the other dealers around here do them before the even take a truck in trade. I don't have a problem showing my commitment by putting a deposit on the truck while they have it done however the truck was already shopped for required repairs and a new CVIP I positive they changed the oil while in the shop so would it even be worth doing a oil sample if it has no miles on it? -
One other thing, might be better in the 18 wheeler section, but I noticed the tires on the inside most forward drive axle were medium - heavily scalloped on the inside (edge facing frame). Never quite seen anything like it. What would be causing this and should this throw a red flag? Sales rep said he see's it all the time due to under inflation, but who wouldn't when they're trying to push a $40k truck. lol
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You're going to make the right decision. I checked your posts and you are doing your due diligence. Minimize the risk, expect the worst. Be determined to do whatever it takes to be a success. Starting with an older truck is SMART. Don't fall for the new truck scams. Have a plan "B" before you start, and a plan in case you have to jump ship. Once in awhile, a new O/O's luck goes south right off the bat- know what to do, have an S.O.P. and a plan if that happens. This is business, not a card game. Watch your risk, be a little bold, don't risk your savings or home by tangling it up in trucking, you can lose it in seconds.
Go make us proud.
Then tell us how you did it, we still can't figure out how we got here....BigJohn54 Thanks this. -
This is so true! I've said it in other threads. If all you've planned for is success you haven't completed the planning. Have back up plans and an exit strategy. Know what is at risk and what you are willing to lose if it goes south. Know how you will limit your losses.
I'm a skeptical person but if the oil has been changed and the dyno run and oil analysis wasn't done by a reputable independent shop beforehand, I would laugh at them loudly and boisterously and walk away.
The trucks I have been looking at have a dyno run and oil analysis on engine, transmissions and differentials done already by a reputable local shop or they have new in-frame overhauls by a reputable shop and oil samples on the transmission and differentials.
Any reputable dealer should understand what new oil looks like to the buyer. Again just know I always err on the side of caution. I may miss a good deal occasionally but I avoid heartache always. My way may not be the right way but it has served me well.
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The truck is at an international dealer. They were honest as to who traded it in, but it's not hard to tell when you see the colors. LOL The company has a small fleet of what I would guess is 10 to 20 trucks and been around for about 35 years. They sometimes buy, sometimes lease, but cycle out the trucks on a 5 year cycle. The international dealer took it on trade towards a new truck, but claim they don't normally do a oil analyst unless by buyer request. I don't know if they actually changed the oil, but one can only assume it was if the truck was shopped for repairs, cvip inspection, and greasing. I doubt they'd sell a truck for $40k and as you're driving out the lot 'Oh by the way, its due for an oil change in 500 miles.."
I'm going to see what the warranty and service history shows for the truck they claim it was all done there. That might be a deal breaker before we even move to the oil analyst or maybe it'll show a motor or inframe at some point.
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