hey everyone im new here but have a few questions of my own . I just got my cdl learners permit less than a week ago going to get medical card this week . I know its hard to get started especially with out going thru a school which i didnt . didnt see were i needed to deal with the head ache ive grew up around trucks between grand parents and uncles , cousin brother in laws friends step daddy and so on . but most of them had more help thru connections or was grand fathered in .
But back to the point what is the easiest way for me to go about getting the actual license and getting first job without dealing with these schools.
next question once i take my dot physical this week will i be required to take another one with what ever company i go with.
Now finally one of my uncles is selling me one of his trucks how hard will it be to get hired on as a owner operator with no experience .
also i know some of yal gonna wonder why im asking on here if so many drivers are that close to me here . the answer is most of them have either drove for the same company for many years or like my uncle selling me the truck , owns his own and been driving for twenty two years and had years of experience before owning his own so he cant tell me how hard it is with no experience lol .
any and all suggestion welcome thanks
jb 2012
cdl learners permit / owner operator / retake dot physical
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jb2012, Aug 1, 2011.
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Welcome to the TTR Forum. Unfortunately your chances of getting a driving job without training or OTR experience are slim and none and slim isn't looking good.
Yes, many companies will want you to get a DOT Physical at their doctor, but not all.
Your chances of leasing with a company with no OTR experience are once again slim and none. And you know the rest of the story on slim.
Nobodys insurance is going to cover you, the want experience or approved training.
If your family has some contacts, maybe they can get someone to take a chance on you.
IMHO, if you want to be successful you will get some training. Since you will spend you first couple of years learning anyway, it makes no sense to start out handicapped without proper training.
Here's my standard copy and paste advice. It is aimed toward helping new drivers avoid common misconceptions, pitfalls and disappointments about the industry. I hope you find something of value in it.
You need to research and find out what the important questions are. You can make an above average living but you will make sacrifices that other jobs don't require. Read the "good companies" and "bad companies" section on this forum and get an idea of what company you want to work for and what kind of trailer you want to pull. Don't just go to school and then try to figure out where to go.
I don't know your financial situation. Don't take training from a company if you can afford it or get it with financial aid. You will be their slave for up to year. If you leave they will trash you DAC and credit record. Check out your local community colleges and employment office.
Just know that most training and trucking company recruiters will do nothing but lie to you. They will let you talk about what you want and then tell you what you want to hear. Trucking is about moving freight to make money for the company. Your home time, family, paycheck and everything else comes second.
It is not like any other job. Local is usually backbreaking delivery work 10+ hours a day, 6 days a week. Often you unload dozens of times a day or you are a salesman. In my area most dump truck jobs pay less than a good factory job. Regional is lots of loading and unloading time, fewer miles than OTR and not as hard as local but will wear on you and push your HOS limits. OTR is out 3 - 5 weeks with 3 - 4 days home, less manual labor and more miles.
You'll probably have to pay your dues before you get the gravy job. Weekends off, if you are lucky enough to get something like that starting out, may be home Thursday afternoon and leave Saturday night or home Friday night and leave Sunday afternoon. Loads deliver on Monday early and you leave in time to get them there. Often your home time will be in the middle of the week.
Regardless of your driving choice, after school you will go through company training. For OTR this can be six weeks to three months with little or no home time. The first phase is usually $400 a week and the second phase is $500-550 a week. Some pay less. One company pays 12 CPM for training.
You don't want to wait around too long after training or you'll have trouble finding a job. If you get out before you have a year in, when you try to come back a few months later you will find they want you to start over. Most OTR companies don't put any value on local experience so it is better for your career to drive OTR first if you will ever want that option.
One more thing, if you have anything that makes you less desirable than your competing job applicants, a phone or in-person interview will often bring the best results. Even if I am the best candidate I will choose face-to-face if at all possible and phone if not. Sure you may have to fill out that online application but that isn't the best way to get a good job. You have to do something or be someone who stands out from the crowd. Do regular follow-ups by phone on the jobs you really want. Too many new drivers just settle for a job from the list the school has. There are many more options available. The school works in volume and looks the best when it says 90+% of our graduates find employment. So obviously they get better results from companies that hire in higher numbers.
Now I'll share some thoughts and opinions on common misconceptions. New OTR driver starting pay is usually about $35,000 - $40,000 annually. It will probably be less if you choose regional because you will drive fewer miles. You will most likely see all the sites you can from the truck windshield on the Interstate or parked at the truck stop. The company will not allow you to go out of route or bobtail around to sightsee.
Other helpful suggestions include attending school in early spring. This will give you several months to acclimate yourself to your new driving career before you have to tackle the chore of winter driving. It also will get you started in the busier time of year when more miles are available to make you more money.otherhalftw Thanks this. -
thanks for the reply bigjohn , most of it makes since . talked with a couple guys i know today told me to talk with some of the local farmers to get some driving experience . the only problem is its cotton season here in southeast georgia and i think its still a couple months before they start going to the market (but not for sure on that time frame) nor am i for sure what that looks like on your record for experience. thinking it would prob be like logging .
what i mean by that is that that experince is pretty much only good for other stick wagon jobs you apply for. the odds are ill be going with a company like swift to begin with . i got there number last night , but before i do im gonna look a little into some of the advice you gave and then decide from there with things like our local tech school or a company training program and getting a word in with a family members company.
and again thanks oh and i did find some value in it .BigJohn54 Thanks this. -
Driving for farmers is usually looked upon as local experience, and may not count for much.
Your best chance of getting hired, is to go and get training. Let me repeat, get the training. Unless, one of your relatives can put you to work. -
mr. g thats about what i figured when i compared it to logging but thanks for affirming it . basically it looks im going thru a company training program or talk to a couple of the relatives and see what happens . looks to be my best chance with alot less headache. atleast for the first three to six months then try and put my truck out there that way.
although i might put my truck out there with another driver pulling a stick wagon or something while i drive for someone else for now . never know might be a opportunity to get the experience and possibly find another truck for my self all at the same time . that would give me experience and two trucks and a decent start on my own trucking outfit . hadnt even thought about that until now lol . might not be a bad idea , yal send me some thoughts on that if yal dont mind.
it wouldnt be like i was trying to survive on the truck i am in process of getting all it would need to do is pay for it self and the driver. if and what ever extra would just be a bonus or help with the purchase of second truck ,And yes i am fishing at ideas at the moment lol. but either way i will drive waited to long to drive to not do it . -
oh one more thing all yal leaving replies i greatly appreciate it and those of you that will leave later.
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If you're gonna put your truck on the road, wait till its you behind the wheel. That way you know how its driven, and you may make money on it.
With another driver in the first seat, you won't make any money with it. -
talk to your uncles see if the company will train you. maybe uncle selling you the truck would be willing for a month or so. he could put you in touch with some customers or brokers.
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yea talked with him to day and he brought it up him riding with me for the training in the truck im buying of his that way i can start making a dollar or two and get use to the truck before i go on my own so it looks like every thing is gonna work out with out me having to go thru a 4 - 8 week training company. if he is gonna do it this way it will save me a lot of money and give me the otr experience . so i guess im getting off lucky everybody dont have the opporttunity to do it this way. from what i have understood most have to go thru the strung out process of training schools or a company training program. So thats a good thing. just dont believe i can turn it down.
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good luck keep us posted. practice a lot of backing lol. do you have a trailer?
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